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Post by ialda on Feb 3, 2013 12:24:49 GMT -5
I think it's doubtful they'd go with another studio, Artland animate all of the openings for the games so I think they'd want to keep a good partnership with them. Marvelous AQL bought Artland some years ago, so I think it was one of the major reason why the studio was put in charge of the anime adaptation... Depends. Series composition is important too, as we can see with SK anime. Or every anime series Mari Okada has put her evil claws on (to cite an example which has nothing to do with SK). As for each episode taken individually, the enshutsu and the storyboarder are important for the quality of the episode. As for Takashi Watanabe, he did work on several projects beforehand in plenty of different styles, ranging from Boogiepop and Hokuto no Ken OAV to Freezing, Ikkitousen and Ogenki Clinic. The guy is an industry veteran. I am more reserved about Takao Yoshioka.
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Post by Yomi on Feb 3, 2013 12:56:21 GMT -5
Mari Okada killing sales once again, no wonder Sakurasou no pet na Kanojo doesn't sell.
But she's very hit and miss, mostly miss in the present day.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 3, 2013 13:07:55 GMT -5
If Marvelous keeps on producing new games and the sales are satisfying, a second series may not be impossible in several years, preferably from another animation studio. I do believe Artland is the problem here, as I don't think SK is their type of shows (and to be precise, in spite of all its shortcomings I do like the anime so far ^^ ). Thats how I see it. the show like many in japan is just one big ad and as long as the games are selling really well someone will keep the show going. Also would help that it was not on a paid channel.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 3, 2013 13:19:04 GMT -5
Problem with the anime is the is no way to know if it would get a season 2 and they have to fit eveything in season one. If they knew they would get DBZ or Bleach time to tell the story then eveything would be fine but there is just too many characters for one season and if this does get a season 2 that will just be the versus girls.
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Post by ialda on Feb 3, 2013 13:59:41 GMT -5
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Post by zorogou on Feb 3, 2013 14:23:02 GMT -5
I think it's doubtful they'd go with another studio, Artland animate all of the openings for the games so I think they'd want to keep a good partnership with them. Marvelous AQL bought Artland some years ago, so I think it was one of the major reason why the studio was put in charge of the anime adaptation... Depends. Series composition is important too, as we can see with SK anime. Or every anime series Mari Okada has put her evil claws on. As for each episode taken individually, the enshutsu and the storyboarder are important for the quality of the episode. As for Takashi Watanabe, he did work on several projects beforehand in plenty of different styles, ranging from Boogiepop and Hokuto no Ken OAV to Freezing, Ikkitousen and Ogenki Clinic. The guy is an industry veteran. I am more reserved about Takao Yoshioka. I didn't know Artland were bought by MAQL. That makes a lot of sense why they were used. You'll have to forgive my ignorance regarding all those names. I should and would like to pay more attention to the staff but, to me, it's one of those 'there's way too much to learn and too many people know more than me' it puts me off. I did check out the director and saw he's done quite a number of okay shows so I was expecting this to be as good. I guess I should pay attention to the other staff aswell. I just feel that the story is very wishy washy and the Hanzou girls are all very weak character right now, but that might be because I know the game's story and I'm comparing them. Ikaruga's getting slapped around like she was a beginner when she should be on par or above Katsuragi. She's the Hanzou captain and yet she hasn't even attacked Yomi. Yagyuu, Asuka and Katsuragi have performed as I expected but Ikaruga seems like a wuss in the anime. It's a massive shame they've cast her as the joke of the show adding in all those other scenes; on top of Hanzou... ugh. I'd love to know the thoughts of those who haven't played the game or read all the information on this forum.
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Post by scribbles on Feb 3, 2013 14:47:02 GMT -5
I like the series so far. Some bits are a bit annoying but that's ok. This episode was good. I like the music, I think it adds a lot to the atmosphere, even though it's mostly the same pieces reused. I like it when Kiriya's slightly goofy theme plays when he's doing whatever, it's funny. The piece that starts off Asuka and Homura's confrontation (which also played in ep. 2 sleeping montage) was emotionally resonant. And the bit with Kiriya confronting those delinquents with the crow is made that much cooler with the mounting sinister music (which first played in ep. 1 where the Hebi girls are speaking to their master). I really like that scene. Admittedly I haven't played any of the games (don't shoot me) but Kiriya's character is pretty cool in this adaptation. In certain other adaptations he's shown as a weaker man, or a sort of a pervert. I prefer this side of his character. And as I said, his accompanying tune is funny. I also like the handling of Hibari and Yagyuu in this adaptation, it feels more real than in certain other instances. I dislike when Yagyuu would be portrayed as sort of a creepy pervert for Hibari which, for me, undermines her character, or my perception of it. Here it seems she genuinely cares for Hibari's safety, and she's more like a proper bad ass than a creep. Hibari training with Yagyuu was pretty funny, just like in the comic. The sound of her ineffectual fists bouncing off Hibari's umbrella and her yells is pretty funny. Looks like she has a tiny arm I'm getting more disappointed each week... I don't see a problem there... She appears to be pointing backwards, away from the camera towards Mirai, so it makes sense that it the length of the projection of the arm on the screen would be shorter as the angle of her arm converges towards the viewing angle. Additionally, thanks to perspective, the furthest part of her left arm would appear smaller than the closest part, for the same reason her right hand looks large. So yes, her arm looks small... that's how perspective works. Admittedly she seems to be pointing a little too far to the left, but it's not like she's paying a lot of attention to Mirai. The point is to show that she views addressing Mirai as a necessary annoyance to get over with quickly so she can go find Hibari. I could list a number of other places in the anime so far where I felt the timing, animation or art fell short, but I found this particular sequence expressive and a funny interaction.
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Post by scribbles on Feb 3, 2013 14:58:19 GMT -5
I'd love to know the thoughts of those who haven't played the game or read all the information on this forum. Yeah she does seem sort of wishy washy so far. And the bit with hanzou felt a bit out of place. But one of my favorite scenes was the bit where she talks to Asuka in the shower, which was sweet, and I liked the music in that sequence too. 「あの焼肉みたいなやつ--」 「鳳凰です。」
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Post by ialda on Feb 3, 2013 15:13:33 GMT -5
I am no expert in regards to Takashi Watanabe's (quite long) career and I feel it's quite difficult to pin him down : on one hand he began word and found some of his most well-known successes on anime comedies like Kimengumi Highschool and Slayers, and on the other hand he did some really heavy and thought provoking stuff with Boogiepop and the Kino movie. He has had previous experience with fanservice shows, so we could have expected he was qualified for the job...
I agree wholeheartedly with what you said : of the whole main five girls, Ikaruga has maybe the worst treatment in this adaptation. The only moment she seemed the legitimate leader of the group was during Asuka's training at the end of episode 3. The rest ot the time she is made a fool of - as in this scene at the beginning ot episode 03, on the yacht... (well, at least it was cute).
I'm beginning to suspect Yomi sent a basket of poisonned, mind-controlling bean sprouts to the anime staff. It'd make sense ;D
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Post by Yomi on Feb 3, 2013 16:37:30 GMT -5
I am no expert in regards to Takashi Watanabe's (quite long) career and I feel it's quite difficult to pin him down : on one hand he began word and found some of his most well-known successes on anime comedies like Kimengumi Highschool and Slayers, and on the other hand he did some really heavy and thought provoking stuff with Boogiepop and the Kino movie. He has had previous experience with fanservice shows, so we could have expected he was qualified for the job... I agree wholeheartedly with what you said : of the whole main five girls, Ikaruga has maybe the worst treatment in this adaptation. The only moment she seemed the legitimate leader of the group was during Asuka's training at the end of episode 3. The rest ot the time she is made a fool of - as in this scene at the beginning ot episode 03, on the yacht... (well, at least it was cute). I'm beginning to suspect Yomi sent a basket of poisonned, mind-controlling bean sprouts to the anime staff. It'd make sense ;D I loled hard at that.
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Post by zorogou on Feb 3, 2013 17:07:52 GMT -5
I don't see a problem there... She appears to be pointing backwards, away from the camera towards Mirai, so it makes sense that it the length of the projection of the arm on the screen would be shorter as the angle of her arm converges towards the viewing angle. Additionally, thanks to perspective, the furthest part of her left arm would appear smaller than the closest part, for the same reason her right hand looks large. So yes, her arm looks small... that's how perspective works. Admittedly she seems to be pointing a little too far to the left, but it's not like she's paying a lot of attention to Mirai. The point is to show that she views addressing Mirai as a necessary annoyance to get over with quickly so she can go find Hibari. I could list a number of other places in the anime so far where I felt the timing, animation or art fell short, but I found this particular sequence expressive and a funny interaction. I know how perspective and the like work, it must just be me then as I stare at it too long. Her right hand looks perfectly fine but I find the hair and the lack of any shadows on the left arm really messes up the perspective, it makes it look very flat and not as if it's pointing backwards towards Mirai. I'm glad others have the same opinion on Ikaruga. I'd rank her as my favourite character so for her to be portrayed as the clown of the group, when that role should be left to the dunce that is Hibari, annoys me. She had a few dojikko moments in the game, one of the very first things to happen is she goes out to get food. She creates a mess, as she's had a comfortable life being the adopted daughter of a rich family so it's expected she's make a mistake like that, but the food tasted good. However, apart from those she's exactly like the type of person you see her as when she's helping Asuka in training, etc. Also, it might just be me but her bowing and begging for punishment last episode felt out of character.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 3, 2013 22:32:59 GMT -5
I don't think its out of character. She was a diffrent person during the spark manga and after that she changed and was willing to take more resposability because now she is a leader. So I understand that. Now what she was doing is diffrent.
As for her being weak I guess they are going to show the trials for them gaining more power at some point. Also they may not want to show her being stronger then Asuka since she is the main character I have no idea. Im still tripping of the fact that Homura is the leader of Hebi even though Haruka clearly has more power and does everything. Even in the Anime they have her acting like the leader.
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Post by FlamingYu on Feb 3, 2013 22:36:49 GMT -5
Im still tripping of the fact that Homura is the leader of Hebi even though Haruka clearly has more power and does everything. Even in the Anime they have her acting like the leader. You can be a leader if you have the power to transform (Super Saiyan style). ;D
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 3, 2013 23:17:16 GMT -5
Im still tripping of the fact that Homura is the leader of Hebi even though Haruka clearly has more power and does everything. Even in the Anime they have her acting like the leader. You can be a leader if you have the power to transform (Super Saiyan style). ;D[/quote I guess so.... Oh and I see now in the SK world no girl has nipples lol. Now thats lame. Oh and someone was talking about Yagyuu and I think they should have played her as the pervy character because her as the over protective character is just boring at least with the perv factor she would get diffrent emotions and You would see her in another way then just silent badass protector.
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Post by FlamingYu on Feb 3, 2013 23:36:04 GMT -5
How cute! Some random wannabe ninja trying to challenge Homura. This "Yagyuu-Hibari I will protect you & happy face" scene is getting repetitive. Even Kiriya is cooler than those 2 now.
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