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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 3:57:25 GMT -5
Well guys it's getting there. The upcoming crash can come if Nintendo,Sony and Microsoft don't pull in the casuals that are deeply into the phones,tablets etc.
Studios shutting down and drastic changes along with the fact that this is Sony's EIGHTH reported loss.
Let's see what happens.
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Post by TwinTails on Feb 11, 2013 7:24:58 GMT -5
My god, what are they even doing over there?! Their 8th quarterly loss?! What could they possibly be doing?! That's it, I'm calling it, Sony will go under if the PS4 is over $350 and the Vita stays $270. *huge facpalm*
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Post by Hinata on Feb 12, 2013 0:12:51 GMT -5
My god, what are they even doing over there?! Their 8th quarterly loss?! What could they possibly be doing?! That's it, I'm calling it, Sony will go under if the PS4 is over $350 and the Vita stays $270. *huge facpalm* You wouldn't be the first. Sony has been pulling not so smart moves for a while. Honestly, E3 (assuming they show the ps4) will be make or break for them. They might become another Sega. And Nintendo and Microsoft might follow suit and videogames will die all together. |
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Post by Yomi on Feb 12, 2013 2:17:58 GMT -5
Microsoft is automatically dead in the water if any of the following rumors are true: Blocking used games, Always online, and this, they also have too many FPS, the bubble is bursting and when it does, the majority of the Western market will go with it. Sony although it will be a good choice with the Orbis, those loses may kill the Orbis and the company if it's $400+ at launch. Nintendo will survive, it has strong 1st party support, it won't be as good as the Wii sales wise but it will survive and they aren't going anywhere soon. Those changes are scaring me while I can deal with losing a loved company (I'd be sad but I would survive), a complete or mostly complete change of gaming to tablets and mobile would force me to go to retro gaming, there's nothing I could benefit from tablet gaming or mobile until region locks stop, and a total switch to PC gaming, I just wouldn't be gaming as much current gen well for right now, if the indie community start churning out a whole bunch of games I do want then I would be more open to PC gaming but that will be 3-5 years, maybe 2 in a best case scenerio. |
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 12, 2013 7:15:27 GMT -5
we did not fight DLC we will not fight this. Nintendo is region locking eveything yet the diehards like twin tales has not fought back so why would M$ be any diffrent with there fans?
Its a console war people complain but once the battle starts eveyone takes there position with there camp.
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Post by TwinTails on Feb 12, 2013 7:21:23 GMT -5
we did not fight DLC we will not fight this. Nintendo is region locking everything yet the diehards like TwinTails has not fought back so why would M$ be any different with there fans? Its a console war people complain but once the battle starts everyone takes there position with there camp. Why would I try to fight region locking? I don't believe in importing and I can't read Japanese for the life of me. ;D |
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 12, 2013 9:14:36 GMT -5
Exactly! Make an excuse for a big company and look the other way because it will never affect you.
Then later wonder what happend to gaming.
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Post by augen on Feb 12, 2013 10:38:57 GMT -5
1. Sony's losses have far more to do with other aspects of their business with television being their biggest failure. They'd be foolish to drop gaming at this stage, but I could see them selling off other parts of their business. They will likely post profits on back of weakening yen alone in next year.
2. Microsoft is not going anywhere, they view gaming as much as a "media hub" to get Netflix and all as they do gaming. Let us also take a deep breath that none of these rumors have been confirmed, if they really do try to kill second hand game market, then we'll talk. Also, Microsoft have ridiculously deep pockets.
3. Nintendo could lose money for years and still be okay, they have their core IPs and likely have a console that is profitable by this holiday season.
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The real concern is for third parties. We've witnessed a blood bath these past 7 years as studios fought for market share while development costs rose. I was a massive gap forming where you will have AAA titles and small indie ones. Only a dozen publishers will be able to keep up this arm race as production costs continue to climb.
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Post by Yomi on Feb 12, 2013 10:47:12 GMT -5
we did not fight DLC we will not fight this. Nintendo is region locking everything yet the diehards like TwinTails has not fought back so why would M$ be any different with there fans? Its a console war people complain but once the battle starts everyone takes there position with there camp. Why would I try to fight region locking? I don't believe in importing and I can't read Japanese for the life of me. ;D First of all I was referring to tablets and smartphones when I referred to region locking, it's bullshit and needs to be fixed, it's the number 1 reason I don't approve of either kind of gaming. Now for consoles, It's not only for Japanese games, if you live in Australia you may want to import from the US because the games there cost more than in Japan, and for Europe importing from the US may be the only way to get certain games because they don't always get the games the US get. |
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Post by Hinata on Feb 12, 2013 14:44:19 GMT -5
Why would I try to fight region locking? I don't believe in importing and I can't read Japanese for the life of me. ;D Region locking is a nuisance to alot of people. Importing isn't only from Japan. EU gamers could greatly benefit from grabbing games from my country. |
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Post by h2foxo on Feb 12, 2013 18:47:29 GMT -5
1. Sony's losses have far more to do with other aspects of their business with television being their biggest failure. They'd be foolish to drop gaming at this stage, but I could see them selling off other parts of their business. They will likely post profits on back of weakening yen alone in next year. In fact last time I checked there gaming division was making profits Microsoft is automatically dead in the water if any of the following rumors are true: Blocking used games, Always online, and this, they also have too many FPS, the bubble is bursting and when it does, the majority of the Western market will go with it. I don't like Micrsoft as a gaming company but they are not stupid, I doubt they would make decision like this now when they, as far as i am aware finished 3rd (last) in total sales overall for this gen. They would only do this if they were the only company left ie no rivals |
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Post by TwinTails on Feb 12, 2013 19:57:25 GMT -5
Microsoft is automatically dead in the water if any of the following rumors are true: Blocking used games, Always online, and this, they also have too many FPS, the bubble is bursting and when it does, the majority of the Western market will go with it. I don't like Micrsoft as a gaming company but they are not stupid, I doubt they would make decision like this now when they, as far as i am aware finished 3rd (last) in total sales overall for this gen. They would only do this if they were the only company left ie no rivals Oh no I can see them doing this, this spells M$ all over. They've been doing stuff like this from square one, paying for online, multiplatform game policy, buying out publishers, etc. They're the most greedy and miserly out of the big three and they don't have second thoughts about their ways of doing business.  |
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Post by augen on Feb 12, 2013 20:03:00 GMT -5
I don't like Micrsoft as a gaming company but they are not stupid, I doubt they would make decision like this now when they, as far as i am aware finished 3rd (last) in total sales overall for this gen. They would only do this if they were the only company left ie no rivals Hardware sales Microsoft and Sony are neck and neck for second place with around 76 million units shipped (Nintendo is around 97 if memory serves with the Wii). On software Microsoft did quite well and made huge inroads, and LIVE was a big boom for profits. I don't care for them either, but they have figured out much of the North American market. |
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 12, 2013 23:00:14 GMT -5
By the way people talk I don't understand how there are even fanboys left after this gen. NO COMPANY is clean. People forget it was 7 years this gen and alot happend.
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