After the update there is a new technique that is similar to DCD, but it can be applied to everyone.
Don't know whether it can be used before the update or not.
It seems also a liitle bit of broken...presss X+O repeatedly and the character will do a super low air dash, and when touching the ground the unmovable frames can also be canceled by X+O... with the infinite loop everyone can move lightning fast and has constant invincibility frames as long as you input X+O fast enough
Guess this should also be patched, but as everyone can use it, it might be fair in a sense lol.
In 1.00 many japanese players say DCD and Inochigakei is banned when they are hosting now only JCD is banned.
That was in the last game Burst. it was the nurfed form of the first games Dash cancel. Only thing is in Bust it was a little tricky but it was pretty much the same because once your body or attack touched anything it reset your dash and ability to cancel into anything. So they game went from Portrait to Burst in the gameplay since.
Thanks for the updates. Try the tech with all characters and see who gets advantage or has a longer dash and things like that. also who has the best low to the ground mid air attack that can be spammed with this.
Oh, didn't know that. I played burst for 40 hours but there are still many secrets that I don't know.
I feel in burst Yin, Yang, Sen mode the movement speed and dash invincibility are different, I remember that the Yin mode moves much more faster and has longer dash invincibility. But in SV no matter what mode you are the speed and dash invincibility seem the same.
Guess this technique can also be used in offline modes, in online modes I think it is a little bit overpowered, I tried rush straight through Mirai's bullets and nothing can hit me... moreover the dash can hit the target and can be used to gather ninpo. But indeed press X+O repeatedly very fast is not that easy and sometimes is likely to jump too high or dash on the ground.
Its like you said its a technique. I mentioned it in my burst guide but its hard to describe with out seeing it, I use my index fingers not my thumbs to press the 2 or 3 buttons this give me enough speed to dash cancel or attack dash cancel at crazy speeds. The speed in burst as been lowered and its more difficullt with some characters but in the original game everyone was pretty much the same and since that game was based around frames like a fighting game you could cancel out of any frame and most of the time it produced new attacks.
Ya in burst the dash speeds where different for all 3 and so you had to adjust frame data for each one.
It seems everything is untouched except for the nerf of DCD, improvement of Haruka, and JCD. I also heard there are some characters who can't guard cancel their dash and jump triangle, but afaik most characters can do it, and it doesn't matter as you still can use square to cancel dash.
BTW with the nerf of inochigakei now is is almost useless which is somewhat shameful, I think it is only useful if your opponent is far weaker than you.
S: Miyabi: + no doubt the strongest one, long health, high defense, high endurance, flying armor, dashing triangle hold that crashes guard and launches into air, fast launchers - hiden ninpos.
A: Murakumo: + Good range, DCD, unblockable, fast and wide hiden ninpo 1, fast launchers, dashing trangle hold that crashes gaurd and launches into air，useful air square hold - very low health, defense and endurance
Homura: +dashing trangle hold that crashes gaurd and launches into air，fast and wide hiden ninpo 1, fast launchers, good reach, fast close combat - hiden ninpo 2
Imu: +dashing trangle hold that crashes gaurd and launches into air, DCD, every attack has paralyze property, fast and wide hiden ninpo - very low health, defense and endurance, weak hiden ninpo 2
Katsuragi: +dashing trangle hold that crashes gaurd and launches into air, high defense, health and endurance, useful air square,square,square(hold), wide hiden ninpo 2, fast close combat - hiden ninpo 1
Yumi: + useful projectiles that has ice property, every attack has ice property, extremely long square,triangle that is likely to freeze in Yang mode - hiden ninpo 1
Hibari: + extremely useful paralyze rabbit that has extremely long range, damaging hiden ninpo 2 - very short close combat
Haruka: + extremely useful paralyze triangle(hold), fantastic hiden ninpo 1, can defeat low-health characters without letting them use Limit Break - hiden ninpo 2
Asuka: + teleport launcher, fast close combat, projectile launchers, strong hiden ninpos -
Ikagura: + DCD, very useful projectiles, fast and long close combat, useful hiden ninpos - very low health, defense and endurance
B: Hikage: + Fast close combat, DCD, air DCD, flying armor, useful hiden ninpo 2 - very low health, defense and endurance
Yomi: + high defense, health and endurance, projectiles that launches, strong and unblockable hiden ninpo 1, long attack range - slow attack speed, hiden ninpo 2
Yozakura: + high defense, health and endurance, damaging combo - slow and short attack
Shiki: + very useful projectiles in Yang form, teleport launcher, strong hiden ninpos - slow close combat
Mirai: + strongest projectiles, just guard launcher, strong hiden ninpo 2, strong against DCD characters - hiden ninpo 1, slow close combat
Yagyuu: + great projectiles, many attack has ice property, useful triangle that freeze and crushes guard, great hiden ninpos - low damage
Ryouna: + just guard launcher, useful triangle(hold), useful hiden ninpo, DCD that is slower but has invincibility, some attacks have ice property - low damage, slow and short close combat
Ryoubi: + useful ricochet projectiles that gain ninpos very fast, infinite ground combo loop that can only be stopped by LB, good range in close combat - hiden ninpo 1 and 2 are easily dodged and can be blocked
Murasaki: + triangle(hold) that has super armor, great hiden ninpos, long range in close combat - narrow range of attack in close combat
C: Minori: + good hiden ninpos, useful bucket attack in certain stages - narrow range of attack in close comboat, slow and short close combat
Great read thanks for the info. Now all you have to do is go over the list again and look for broken or easy to use characters with a low risk high reward or just simple BS that no one else can do.
Also is there now rating for Hikage frenzy also dooes Haruka lose her coat and abilities like the 3DS game?
In SV Hikage won't enter frenzy automatically in low health, it can only be activated by hiden ninpo 2, and haruka's moves isn't affected by the coat, maybe because now she use the robot to attack lol
I think most of the strong tricks are easy, the input is extremely easy all you need to do is aim the right direction at the right distance.
In 1vs1vs1vs1 mode it is just too chaotic that there is almost no strategy or technique at all, all you need to do is try everyway to gain scrolls and use wide hiden ninpo to gain points.
2vs2 is the most interesting mode in Senran SV, strategy and technique, spacing and mastery of each move become very important especially when you are against strong characters. But sadly some matchups are just too one-sided that in 2vs2 I think some weaker characters can only win stronger ones with the help from the teammate.
Unlike most fighting games, in Senran SV most moves can be dash canceled which means most moves won't be punished, so if one spam it over and over again some characters really can't do anything about it.
In 2vs2, with the help of teammates, punishment is possible and the guaranteed punishment after just guard becomes important, which is very competitive and interesting.
Ya I know it has to be hell punishing in this game since you can cancel everything. but like you said with teams its diffrent. How is the hit stun? in Burst each form had diffrent hit stun is it still like this?
I think the three modes have the same hit stun. The three modes share the same hit stun, dash distance, dash invincibility, running speed. Only the moves are different, and Sen mode has Improved Guard and Easier Just Guard that can block everything and just guard becomes easier.