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Post by Dai-T on Jul 3, 2013 23:26:38 GMT -5
So Kadokawa is going to take them because the have a ton of selfware games on the market in japan. Nintendo will not step in because they have there own problems.
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Post by TwinTails on Jul 4, 2013 12:37:45 GMT -5
So Kadokawa is going to take them because the have a ton of selfware games on the market in japan. Nintendo will not step in because they have there own problems. Nintendo can still find their IPs useful to help sell the Wii U, and they're not in any kind of financial trouble at all. Atlus' plight is a possible solution to their problem, I don't see how they wouldn't. Anything suggested in this thread doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen. I'm just reporting valuable information that could effect the possible outcome.
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Post by Dai-T on Jul 4, 2013 17:04:36 GMT -5
So Kadokawa is going to take them because the have a ton of selfware games on the market in japan. Nintendo will not step in because they have there own problems. Nintendo can still find their IPs useful to help sell the Wii U, and they're not in any kind of financial trouble at all. Atlus' plight is a possible solution to their problem, I don't see how they wouldn't. Anything suggested in this thread doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen. I'm just reporting valuable information that could effect the possible outcome. So then nintendo gets them then what they make a mario game or an rpg and shoehorn mario in. I know you are a fanboy but you have to see they work on different types of games with different standards expected. Nintendo already has intelligent systems anyway.
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Post by TwinTails on Jul 4, 2013 19:29:17 GMT -5
Nintendo can still find their IPs useful to help sell the Wii U, and they're not in any kind of financial trouble at all. Atlus' plight is a possible solution to their problem, I don't see how they wouldn't. Anything suggested in this thread doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen. I'm just reporting valuable information that could effect the possible outcome. So then nintendo gets them then what they make a mario game or an rpg and shoehorn mario in. I know you are a fanboy but you have to see they work on different types of games with different standards expected. Nintendo already has intelligent systems anyway. That sounds ridiculous. Don't just go around implying Nintendo only makes mario games, I said before that they wouldn't try to change them. They didn't change Monolith Soft and they wouldn't have funded Bayonetta 2 above all. I never said they will buy them, I'm not trying to argue with you. We don't know what could happen at this point.
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Post by Dai-T on Jul 4, 2013 20:32:30 GMT -5
So then nintendo gets them then what they make a mario game or an rpg and shoehorn mario in. I know you are a fanboy but you have to see they work on different types of games with different standards expected. Nintendo already has intelligent systems anyway. That sounds ridiculous. Don't just go around implying Nintendo only makes mario games, I said before that they wouldn't try to change them. They didn't change Monolith Soft and they wouldn't have funded Bayonetta 2 above all. I never said they will buy them, I'm not trying to argue with you. We don't know what could happen at this point. But you keep talking like Nintendo would care. They have different standards. Nintendo now is looking for million sellers if they were not there would be a new f zero or metroid. Atlus does not make million sellers so there games would suffer the same fate as nintendo games that don't crack a mil.
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Post by TwinTails on Jul 4, 2013 21:00:40 GMT -5
That sounds ridiculous. Don't just go around implying Nintendo only makes mario games, I said before that they wouldn't try to change them. They didn't change Monolith Soft and they wouldn't have funded Bayonetta 2 above all. I never said they will buy them, I'm not trying to argue with you. We don't know what could happen at this point. But you keep talking like Nintendo would care. They have different standards. Nintendo now is looking for million sellers if they were not there would be a new f zero or metroid. Atlus does not make million sellers so there games would suffer the same fate as nintendo games that don't crack a mil. They don't have to sell a million copies, just having Atlus' IPs on the system alone would draw in Atlus' fanbase, that's all i'm trying to say. Atlus' games may prove as profitable as Fire Emblem: Awakening or Kid Icarus: Uprising, even Bayonetta 2 or Monolith's X may not rival a typical 3D mario but Nintendo still releases them to broaden their audience and sell their console. They're just in a sense of urgency where they need and would want all the support they can get.
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Post by Dai-T on Jul 4, 2013 22:16:08 GMT -5
But you keep talking like Nintendo would care. They have different standards. Nintendo now is looking for million sellers if they were not there would be a new f zero or metroid. Atlus does not make million sellers so there games would suffer the same fate as nintendo games that don't crack a mil. They don't have to sell a million copies, just having Atlus' IPs on the system alone would draw in Atlus' fanbase, that's all i'm trying to say. Atlus' games may prove as profitable as Fire Emblem: Awakening or Kid Icarus: Uprising, even Bayonetta 2 or Monolith's X may not rival a typical 3D mario but Nintendo still releases them to broaden their audience and sell their console. They're just in a sense of urgency where they need and would want all the support they can get. But they already have Atlus games on there systems so how would having ALL there games locked down to one company help gamers worldwide? no platform owner should control them because there fate would be the same if the games don't sell the team gets less funding and put on crappy projects. Why can't nintendo just make games like atlus why do they need them. This is cheaper then buying them and the nintendo name will sell the game to fans like yourself.
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Post by TwinTails on Jul 5, 2013 17:09:27 GMT -5
They don't have to sell a million copies, just having Atlus' IPs on the system alone would draw in Atlus' fanbase, that's all i'm trying to say. Atlus' games may prove as profitable as Fire Emblem: Awakening or Kid Icarus: Uprising, even Bayonetta 2 or Monolith's X may not rival a typical 3D mario but Nintendo still releases them to broaden their audience and sell their console. They're just in a sense of urgency where they need and would want all the support they can get. But they already have Atlus games on there systems so how would having ALL there games locked down to one company help gamers worldwide? no platform owner should control them because there fate would be the same if the games don't sell the team gets less funding and put on crappy projects. Why can't nintendo just make games like atlus why do they need them. This is cheaper then buying them and the nintendo name will sell the game to fans like yourself. You're starting to argue with me again. No one's saying they will buy them and you shouldn't always try so hard to refute the bad that would come out of it. You often look at the negative side of things which is what alot of forum goers get from you. And we don't only buy Nintendo published games, it irks me that gamers put us in that category to prove a point or make us seem shortsighted, when so many of us are divide amongst each other as it is.
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Post by Dai-T on Jul 5, 2013 21:56:25 GMT -5
But they already have Atlus games on there systems so how would having ALL there games locked down to one company help gamers worldwide? no platform owner should control them because there fate would be the same if the games don't sell the team gets less funding and put on crappy projects. Why can't nintendo just make games like atlus why do they need them. This is cheaper then buying them and the nintendo name will sell the game to fans like yourself. You're starting to argue with me again. No one's saying they will buy them and you shouldn't always try so hard to refute the bad that would come out of it. You often look at the negative side of things which is what alot of forum goers get from you. And we don't only buy Nintendo published games, it irks me that gamers put us in that category to prove a point or make us seem shortsighted, when so many of us are divide amongst each other as it is. It's more the reality of the situation. If you been following the latest nintendo news and i know you have they are in no position with devs now publicly complaining about nintendo not marketing there game. My comment would be the same for all 3 console makes not just nintendo it's just you mentioned nintendo if you had said any of the other 2 I would have explain why it would not be a wise move. If you don't only buy nintendo published games tell other nintendo fans to stop saying I buy nintendo systems for nintendo games. You do all know that devs are on the internet and can see this and can make up there mind based on this hive mind set. That statment alone does more harm for nintendo fans then good but everyone is proud to say this now.
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Post by TwinTails on Jul 6, 2013 0:02:00 GMT -5
If you don't only buy nintendo published games tell other nintendo fans to stop saying I buy nintendo systems for nintendo games. You do all know that devs are on the internet and can see this and can make up there mind based on this hive mind set. That statment alone does more harm for nintendo fans then good but everyone is proud to say this now. Again, this is only one portion of the Nintendo fanbase that contributes to the mixed signals that outsiders receive. There are the loyalist fans that only buy 1st party games, the heavily critical pseudo fans of Nintendo, The choose first fans that can't afford multiple systems but put Nintendo first, well-rounded fans that own multiple systems, and debating fans that you often see arguing with trolls. We're often butting heads on which act of Nintendo's is helpful or harmful.
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