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Post by Sinister-Oni on Jun 24, 2015 19:29:00 GMT -5
NoA is going to censor Fates, arent they. It's just not fair ;_; Camilla is too perfect Just wait for those that will flip their shit that NoA might not include same sex marriage function that is confirmed in it.
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Post by leanmeanlovinmachine on Jun 24, 2015 20:02:22 GMT -5
NoA is going to censor Fates, arent they. It's just not fair ;_; Camilla is too perfect Just wait for those that will flip their shit that NoA might not include same sex marriage function that is confirmed in it. That's only two characters though and they are the most unappealing ones too and it can only happen with the MU. I wouldnt give a shit if that isnt included. pfft. It's too miniscule. What I care about is the waifus and fanservice that will get thrown out.
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Post by Sinister-Oni on Jun 24, 2015 20:03:11 GMT -5
Sort of noticed from the first showing of Fire Emblem IF with some of the gameplay and... Tharja 2.0 Gee I wonder who this could be?... lol
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Post by Sinister-Oni on Jun 24, 2015 20:14:52 GMT -5
Just wait for those that will flip their shit that NoA might not include same sex marriage function that is confirmed in it. That's only two characters though and they are the most unappealing ones too and it can only happen with the MU. I wouldnt give a shit if that isnt included. pfft. It's too miniscule. What I care about is the waifus and fanservice that will get thrown out. I don't care really, I got a new Tharja anyway. lol
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Post by gojira1234 on Jun 24, 2015 20:52:45 GMT -5
I'm loving all the children characters. They're all so cute and I just cannot handle!!! Too bad you can only be gay with only two characters, which are each restricted to one version (Tharja 2.0 being the one character you can be a lesbian with). But this is Japan we're talking about so... Baby steps.
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Post by gojira1234 on Jun 24, 2015 20:54:32 GMT -5
Just wait for those that will flip their shit that NoA might not include same sex marriage function that is confirmed in it. That's only two characters though and they are the most unappealing ones too and it can only happen with the MU. I wouldnt give a shit if that isnt included. pfft. It's too miniscule. What I care about is the waifus and fanservice that will get thrown out. I know. I wanted to be gay with my childhood friend Cyrus or the Wolfe guy Flannel but nope I get the dungeon porn sadist Zero. Oh well, at least his daughter, Éponine, is cute.
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Post by Sinister-Oni on Jun 24, 2015 22:13:38 GMT -5
I'm loving all the children characters. They're all so cute and I just cannot handle!!! Too bad you can only be gay with only two characters, which are each restricted to one version (Tharja 2.0 being the one character you can be a lesbian with). But this is Japan we're talking about so... Baby steps. Sad no one is going to now have their hilarious yuri fantasy of Camilla.
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Post by gojira1234 on Jun 24, 2015 22:27:32 GMT -5
I'm loving all the children characters. They're all so cute and I just cannot handle!!! Too bad you can only be gay with only two characters, which are each restricted to one version (Tharja 2.0 being the one character you can be a lesbian with). But this is Japan we're talking about so... Baby steps. Sad no one is going to now have their hilarious yuri fantasy of Camilla. My friend wanted to be lesbians with Aqua/Azura so bad I feel so bad for her.
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Post by leanmeanlovinmachine on Jun 25, 2015 1:16:53 GMT -5
Glad your friend didn't get what she wanted. I just love how it's monkey pawed that the western non-gaming community cant slander it for being anti-gay but giving it to two terrible noncharacters. I'm fine with it and two bisexual characters is more than enough. It's stupid how people will want homosex but slander incest (and there is none actually, everyon is NBR to the MU), such idiocy you see. After such a terrible E3 (like they arent all terrible), it just hurts this game will get censored. And it angers me that people want this game censored like they cant even just slap a mature rating on the game and be done with it. Fire Emblem was never a kids series. After all the radiant series and GBA games I played, it's not a game with a ton of children appeal. I can see the amie rubbing and Camilla wanting to take a bath go bye bye.
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Post by gojira1234 on Jun 25, 2015 9:25:09 GMT -5
Glad your friend didn't get what she wanted. I just love how it's monkey pawed that the western non-gaming community cant slander it for being anti-gay but giving it to two terrible noncharacters. I'm fine with it and two bisexual characters is more than enough. It's stupid how people will want homosex but slander incest (and there is none actually, everyon is NBR to the MU), such idiocy you see. After such a terrible E3 (like they arent all terrible), it just hurts this game will get censored. And it angers me that people want this game censored like they cant even just slap a mature rating on the game and be done with it. Fire Emblem was never a kids series. After all the radiant series and GBA games I played, it's not a game with a ton of children appeal. I can see the amie rubbing and Camilla wanting to take a bath go bye bye. "It's stupid how people will want homosex but slander incest" are you trying to say having sex with someone of the same sex is as bad as incest? It kinda sounds like that. Also it's not like I'd want EVERY character in the game to have the option of being gay or bi or pan, that'd be unrealistic. But seeing as the statistic for gay people is 1/5, and with 70+ characters already, there should be at LEAST 14 same-sex marriage options. But yeah I don't see why they can't just slap an M-rating on it either. I don't think it'd be the first time there's been an M-rated Nintendo game. And I don't think they'll take away the Amie-esque rubbing, but they'll probably tone down the obvious sexualness of the dialog (especially the ones you get after you S-support someone).
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Post by leanmeanlovinmachine on Jun 25, 2015 10:10:43 GMT -5
Glad your friend didn't get what she wanted. I just love how it's monkey pawed that the western non-gaming community cant slander it for being anti-gay but giving it to two terrible noncharacters. I'm fine with it and two bisexual characters is more than enough. It's stupid how people will want homosex but slander incest (and there is none actually, everyon is NBR to the MU), such idiocy you see. After such a terrible E3 (like they arent all terrible), it just hurts this game will get censored. And it angers me that people want this game censored like they cant even just slap a mature rating on the game and be done with it. Fire Emblem was never a kids series. After all the radiant series and GBA games I played, it's not a game with a ton of children appeal. I can see the amie rubbing and Camilla wanting to take a bath go bye bye. "It's stupid how people will want homosex but slander incest" are you trying to say having sex with someone of the same sex is as bad as incest? It kinda sounds like that. Also it's not like I'd want EVERY character in the game to have the option of being gay or bi or pan, that'd be unrealistic. But seeing as the statistic for gay people is 1/5, and with 70+ characters already, there should be at LEAST 14 same-sex marriage options. But yeah I don't see why they can't just slap an M-rating on it either. I don't think it'd be the first time there's been an M-rated Nintendo game. And I don't think they'll take away the Amie-esque rubbing, but they'll probably tone down the obvious sexualness of the dialog (especially the ones you get after you S-support someone). yes. I don't see how you can defend same sex marriage but not support incestual rights to marry and vice versa. Incest is just as bad. *statistic for gay people is 1/5* 1/5 of what? Not the total population obviously. Much much much less than that. Much less. The make up of black people in the US isn't even at a full 20% of the total population and I know there are more black people in the US than gay people. EDIT: actually, according to the census, 13% of the US population is black. That's barely over 1/10
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Post by gojira1234 on Jun 25, 2015 10:54:19 GMT -5
"It's stupid how people will want homosex but slander incest" are you trying to say having sex with someone of the same sex is as bad as incest? It kinda sounds like that. Also it's not like I'd want EVERY character in the game to have the option of being gay or bi or pan, that'd be unrealistic. But seeing as the statistic for gay people is 1/5, and with 70+ characters already, there should be at LEAST 14 same-sex marriage options. But yeah I don't see why they can't just slap an M-rating on it either. I don't think it'd be the first time there's been an M-rated Nintendo game. And I don't think they'll take away the Amie-esque rubbing, but they'll probably tone down the obvious sexualness of the dialog (especially the ones you get after you S-support someone). yes. I don't see how you can defend same sex marriage but not support incestual rights to marry and vice versa. Incest is just as bad. *statistic for gay people is 1/5* 1/5 of what? Not the total population obviously. Much much much less than that. Much less. The make up of black people in the US isn't even at a full 20% of the total population and I know there are more black people in the US than gay people. EDIT: actually, according to the census, 13% of the US population is black. That's barely over 1/10 1 in 5 people, I mean. But that's just a common estimate I've seen thrown around. It's hard to get a true grasp on the true ratio because people often lie in surveys either because they're still in the closet, or feel ashamed of their sexuality for some reason or another. One reason, maybe, is that society stills sees homosexuality on the same taboo level as incest. Incest, which if done with first-degree relatives (relatives which share over half your DNA) often (but, admittedly, not always) leads to debilitating mental and physical deformities in a child, should one be conceived. Now sure, if it's consensual, go ahead. I can't stop you, and "love is love". But really, what would possess you to have intercourse with your own blood-related sibling? And let's not ignore the fact that incest, even if it's consensual, is mostly performed by heterosexuals. But then again, this entire argument brings up moral views that just cannot be argued for or against. There are many factors and loopholes and such to be considered. What if a man would like to be in a same-sex relationship with his own brother? That includes both sides of our argument. While I would agree on the same-sex part, I'd be more than iffy on the brothers part. But it seems to me by your comments that you are uncomfortable with BOTH non-heterosexuality AND incest ("/Glad/ your friend didn't get what she wanted." and "Incest is just as /bad/.") So at this point in our argument, I think it's safe to reach middle-ground, and just agree to disagree. Because I don't see either of us changing our views on this because of each other.
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Post by leanmeanlovinmachine on Jun 25, 2015 22:05:13 GMT -5
yes. I don't see how you can defend same sex marriage but not support incestual rights to marry and vice versa. Incest is just as bad. *statistic for gay people is 1/5* 1/5 of what? Not the total population obviously. Much much much less than that. Much less. The make up of black people in the US isn't even at a full 20% of the total population and I know there are more black people in the US than gay people. EDIT: actually, according to the census, 13% of the US population is black. That's barely over 1/10 1 in 5 people, I mean. But that's just a common estimate I've seen thrown around. It's hard to get a true grasp on the true ratio because people often lie in surveys either because they're still in the closet, or feel ashamed of their sexuality for some reason or another. One reason, maybe, is that society stills sees homosexuality on the same taboo level as incest. Incest, which if done with first-degree relatives (relatives which share over half your DNA) often (but, admittedly, not always) leads to debilitating mental and physical deformities in a child, should one be conceived. Now sure, if it's consensual, go ahead. I can't stop you, and "love is love". But really, what would possess you to have intercourse with your own blood-related sibling? And let's not ignore the fact that incest, even if it's consensual, is mostly performed by heterosexuals. It's around 5% of the population at the very pinnacle most. Whoever you're reading saying that 1 in 5 people are gay is lying to you. That makes them more numerous than black people and hispanics in the United States and close to their number combined. If that's the case, gay marriage is accepted before civil rights. That's more egregious than the 10% number some like to trot about. LGBT is extremely vocal. I've never heard that much. You have news media talking about Bruce Jenner thinking he's a woman than actual news. If both adults are consensual and in love, shouldn't they have the right to marry and not have you interfere in the bedroom? Having a child is up to them. It might as well be argued that women over 35 cant have babies anymore because they'll be born with defects. It's either all ok or none of it is. What bothers me is the screaming for this game (reddit, tumblr) about the incest tones in this (which there is none in the game at all). I think Odin and Lucina were both censored when you paired them too. I dont see why Zero and Shara will get get censored. The dialogue is so vanilla and it's just a support. The camilla suggestive stuff.dressing,violence is a different matter. This game is going to be censored to hell when it hits the shores. And I'm talking about the dressing up stuff and the pokemon amies. Probably a good amount of the dialogue too. And on the gameplay, it seems a lot better than what awakening was. Awakening was pretty barebones with some good characters but this seems more of a less simplified challenge. Do clothing purposes serve something other than aesthetics? Cause the aesthetics of the models are still not appealing.
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Post by Azure Mikasa on Jul 7, 2015 3:33:59 GMT -5
So yeah...I'm looking forward to playing the game.
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Post by gojira1234 on Jul 8, 2015 13:40:17 GMT -5
So yeah...I'm looking forward to playing the game. Yeah I've heard it's pretty good!
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