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Post by solaris on Jan 21, 2014 16:25:05 GMT -5
like I said don't matter what WE think for anyone 3rd parties will run the show. eveyone will live or die by them. This gen they will have the most power. Pretty sure Capcom and Square Enix won't be running any shows due to their finances. Other than that Nintendo pretty much has support from Japan in Sega, Platinum Games and Atlus,(to an extent due to Sega.) I still believe third parties won't support PS4/One like they claim simply because the games are starting to cost too much. I literally do not want to hear Square Enix bitch because Tomb Raider on PS4/One failed to meet "expectations" at $60 dollars. And because PS4 and One are way too defective. Just read this, guys. www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/11/22/daily-reaction-ps4-and-xbox-one-launch-failure/
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Post by JackAtlas on Jan 21, 2014 17:38:48 GMT -5
Pretty sure Capcom and Square Enix won't be running any shows due to their finances. Other than that Nintendo pretty much has support from Japan in Sega, Platinum Games and Atlus,(to an extent due to Sega.) I still believe third parties won't support PS4/One like they claim simply because the games are starting to cost too much. I literally do not want to hear Square Enix bitch because Tomb Raider on PS4/One failed to meet "expectations" at $60 dollars. petty sure I was talking about the west and you know that. No GTA No Madden. Ya lets so what western games they get. Why did you even comment no such old post Iwata said its over. You said "third parties would run the show" which implies all of them. You can't say Nintendo won't receive GTAVI, when GTAV has released a few months ago, and the sequel will come out in like 4 years due to how the GTA games release. Does anyone truly want games from "The Worst Company in America?" Unless the games are extremely high quality than I don't see how you can label any EA game as "support" for any console. And again, it comes down to the budget for these games. If Square Enix was displeased with Tomb Raider, Hitman and a lot of their western titles. How can you justify a $50 million dollar budget for a PS4/One game? I don't know where your getting the information that Iwata said it was "over." If it is over for Nintendo than it should have been over for Sony years ago when the PS3 wiped out every single penny the PSOne and PS2 made, the Vita is still unprofitable and PS4 is selling at a loss as well.
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Post by Mirai on Jan 21, 2014 18:02:31 GMT -5
AAA practices will die.
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Post by Dai-T on Jan 21, 2014 18:18:58 GMT -5
petty sure I was talking about the west and you know that. No GTA No Madden. Ya lets so what western games they get. Why did you even comment no such old post Iwata said its over. You said "third parties would run the show" which implies all of them. You can't say Nintendo won't receive GTAVI, when GTAV has released a few months ago, and the sequel will come out in like 4 years due to how the GTA games release. Does anyone truly want games from "The Worst Company in America?" Unless the games are extremely high quality than I don't see how you can label any EA game as "support" for any console. And again, it comes down to the budget for these games. If Square Enix was displeased with Tomb Raider, Hitman and a lot of their western titles. How can you justify a $50 million dollar budget for a PS4/One game? I don't know where your getting the information that Iwata said it was "over." If it is over for Nintendo than it should have been over for Sony years ago when the PS3 wiped out every single penny the PSOne and PS2 made, the Vita is still unprofitable and PS4 is selling at a loss as well. do you have a wiiu?
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Post by Dai-T on Jan 21, 2014 18:27:42 GMT -5
How? with advances in all devices soon anything can support those games. and models. I thought dlc and f2p was going to die. I guess we lost.
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Post by Mirai on Jan 21, 2014 19:58:41 GMT -5
How? with advances in all devices soon anything can support those games. and models. I thought dlc and f2p was going to die. I guess we lost. Mismanaging resources and expecting sales well into the millions in order to cover the outrageous costs will.
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Post by Dai-T on Jan 21, 2014 20:06:55 GMT -5
How? with advances in all devices soon anything can support those games. and models. I thought dlc and f2p was going to die. I guess we lost. Mismanaging resources and expecting sales well into the millions in order to cover the outrageous costs will. That is where DlC and new models comes in. Even gamestop is scared because the power the publishers are about to get.
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Post by Mirai on Jan 21, 2014 20:45:23 GMT -5
Then NEED is a better term to use.
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Post by Dai-T on Jan 21, 2014 21:03:47 GMT -5
For the AAA market to collapse one of two things would have to happen.
1: All AAA titles fail going forward including Nintendos.
2: The rise of other devices and services take over creating a crash for all major gaming consoles.
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Post by Mirai on Jan 21, 2014 21:11:08 GMT -5
Nintendo has AAA titles? As in, overbudget projects that get out of control in the name of power?
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Post by Dai-T on Jan 21, 2014 22:06:39 GMT -5
Nintendo has AAA titles? As in, overbudget projects that get out of control in the name of power? What are you on about Zelda takes like 4 years and smash is on 3 so far. Yes they have them too. I see you are anti game industry. why keep playing games then because you still support those big game indirectly. Same thing you said can be said about small titles you love so try not to use blanket statements because those can be used against you by the majority. see SK drama.
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Post by solaris on Jan 21, 2014 22:36:35 GMT -5
Nintendo has AAA titles? As in, overbudget projects that get out of control in the name of power? What are you on about Zelda takes like 4 years and smash is on 3 so far. Yes they have them too. I see you are anti game industry. why keep playing games then because you still support those big game indirectly. Same thing you said can be said about small titles you love so try not to use blanket statements because those can be used against you by the majority. see SK drama. In my case, i just want to play good games, no matter if these games are AAA titles or not, instead of playing games like Superman 64 and Big Rigs.
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Post by Mirai on Jan 21, 2014 23:37:06 GMT -5
Nintendo has AAA titles? As in, overbudget projects that get out of control in the name of power? What are you on about Zelda takes like 4 years and smash is on 3 so far. Yes they have them too. I see you are anti game industry. why keep playing games then because you still support those big game indirectly. Same thing you said can be said about small titles you love so try not to use blanket statements because those can be used against you by the majority. see SK drama. I also agree with you. I was a fool. I'd like to extend a humble apology. Forgot about Zelda, I haven't bought one since Majora's Mask, back in 2000. I'll say, it's refreshing to be called anti-game industry. Such an all-encompassing term. Because it simply sounds like I'm against all of it. But I did the same I see. Shame on me. Also I think you and I are talking about different things. I dislike developers wimping games in the name of DLC ($$$). I dislike developers "abusing" the very spirit of Added Content. THAT is what I desire the death of. Among other things, like focus groups, flare over gameplay, homogenization, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 0:08:18 GMT -5
What are you on about Zelda takes like 4 years and smash is on 3 so far. Yes they have them too. I see you are anti game industry. why keep playing games then because you still support those big game indirectly. Same thing you said can be said about small titles you love so try not to use blanket statements because those can be used against you by the majority. see SK drama. I also agree with you. I was a fool. I'd like to extend a humble apology. Forgot about Zelda, I haven't bought one since Majora's Mask, back in 2000. I'll say, it's refreshing to be called anti-game industry. Such an all-encompassing term. Because it simply sounds like I'm against all of it. But I did the same I see. Shame on me. Also I think you and I are talking about different things. I dislike developers wimping games in the name of DLC ($$$). I dislike developers "abusing" the very spirit of Added Content. THAT is what I desire the death of. Among other things, like focus groups, flare over gameplay, homogenization, etc. Feles ignore wave1000, he doesn't understand what video games are, he expects us to think the same way he does. I don't take him seriously when it comes to this sort of topic. You shouldn't bother taking him seriously either. Also I wholeheartily agree with you, I wish developers would stop thinking so much about the $$$ and think about the quality and making of a great game. Nintendo is one of the few companies left who cares for games. Everyone else just want that CoD/GTA money that's all. What's worse is, the video game industry cannot crash. It's too big now for that to happen, furthermore ppl accept the mediocrity of games and systems alike. Plus since they outweigh us,companies will pander to them. Boy I wished GTA,Halo and CoD failed, I'm sure the video game industry would be far better.
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Post by Dai-T on Jan 22, 2014 0:30:09 GMT -5
It's her.
And to get on topic Nintendo finances.
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