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Post by TheAtom on Mar 22, 2015 19:21:07 GMT -5
I finally could read what you wrote and... well... You process is a lot more complex than mine! You actualy compose your music, something I don't do ( yet). I would hardly say you do remix like me because there is actualy composing in your process and remix is normaly a process where you don't have to do any composing at all (sometimes you can, but never getting too far from the music you are using as the base of your remix). Despite the hard work I have with my musics I don't do the hardest part that is composing the music, since I get the midis from the internet. Only the mixing part is kind of related to what I do, but without using the scratching thing and other things you mentioned. However it doesn't mean i didn't compose anything at all in my musics. Some of them have little pieces I composed (with my totally basic knowledge) for the melody and little modifications in the midis. Sometimes I even use some beats I composed myself using a freeware program called HammerHead some time ago, but there is only two musics used those: Neve à Primeira Vista and O Prelúdio para o Pesadelo. But anyway. I don't always do everything in one pattern. A lot of musics demand that I dismantle the midi in pieces to make it work while some others pratically scream to me saying that I can't do this. The one in the image I posted in particular is one of the cases where I can't simply divide everything and it's no use to do so, since the music is with the wrong bpm (if you click the image and listen to the music you will see that it doesn't sound like something with 95bpm). That always happens when I use those old midi from old games because for some reason they where programmed to be like this. When I can make a music with separated patterns it looks like this: *image* That one is also color coded and that's also something i don't do often but this time I just wanted to do this. This music in particular took like 11 hours of hard work to make. I use midis with all the instruments because I need the music complete to make my remixes and I do have some keyboards in my house: one is a controller keyboard and the other is the normal rythm keyboard that comes with a lot things, but I don't use them to make my remixes because I'm not very good playing it and because my father need them all the time for his things. Turns out I must've closed the tab accidentally, well, here it goes again! As an almost entirely sample-based musician, it feels funny to hear someone say "You actually compose your music" like that haha. I much more often deal with the opposite "but you sample, so you're basically just stealing other people's music". Anyway, made me smile haha XD But nah, I wouldn't consider myself to 'remix' either. If that would be the case, then any sample-based song should instead be called a remix haha Now that is a screenshot I can handle! Personally I don't like that way of seeing the playlist (with the tracks there, and you see the names of the particular patterns, seems so tough to navigate), I prefer the classic look you see in my screenshot. But that might also be because I'm just used to this. I've been working with FL Studio on and off since I was 11 (me being 20 now, that makes about 9 years), and I never once used that other way, except for patterns that only in particular parts need to be cut. Also the reason I didn't 'get' the new FL studio yet... I remember not being able to switch in the newer ones... But whoa, you can work with that? A song that works in a different tempo? That's impressive to me. I wouldn't even know how to do that! Or well, I know how to, but would not be able to actually do it. When there's a pattern, it should stick to it! Aaaah, so you have keyboards in hour house, but not available to you! If you want to start making original songs/scores, I would recommend getting used to such keyboards, but I'm pretty sure you're aware of that I just tried out downloading a random midi off the internet, somehow the notes on some of the tracks off the midi didn't play, not sure why, but regardless, that's fun! you just get like, a whole track, played out for you! I didn't know that existed (obviously, there's no reason why it shouldn't, just never thought of it)!
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Post by [Vitz!] on Mar 22, 2015 20:34:34 GMT -5
I've been working in FL Studio since 2008, but remixes is another story. I used to work with remixes with ACID 3 since a lot of time ago... I can't even remember when I started to be honest. The first versions of O Prelúdio para o Pesadelo were made in ACID with a lot less resources. Prelúdio is actualy a 5 years anniversary remix. And music in general is something I've beem playing since times even older than that. Like the early 2000's. I'm used to that way of using the playlist since for me is easier to identify the track by those "dots" you see. And working with a music with a different tempo means I can't cut it as I please and make them play in a differen't way. For example: I want to have a part to repeat more times in a music that works in a completely different tempo, but I can't cut that specific part because when I cut it and put in the music it comes completely wrong and offbeat. About composing: That's one of the main reasons I started my hiatus I mentioned in the first page using a quote from my facebook page. I want to start trying to compose something for my musics and want to start getting some musics by ear (because there is no midi to work with). I'll get the keyboard someday and see if I can get anything.
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Post by [Vitz!] on Mar 22, 2015 23:03:09 GMT -5
I also should say that discussing here with you is a tiring experience. I'm trying my best to either bring the best english I can possibly write and using the best of my limited knowledge to understand what you say.
But it is been very rewarding nonetheless. I never had the oportunity of describing my process of making those musics with someone WHO IS ACTUALY INTERESTED in it. You are a RARE BREED, son.
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Post by TheAtom on Mar 23, 2015 8:37:16 GMT -5
I've been working in FL Studio since 2008, but remixes is another story. I used to work with remixes with ACID 3 since a lot of time ago... I can't even remember when I started to be honest. The first versions of O Prelúdio para o Pesadelo were made in ACID with a lot less resources. Prelúdio is actualy a 5 years anniversary remix. And music in general is something I've beem playing since times even older than that. Like the early 2000's. I'm used to that way of using the playlist since for me is easier to identify the track by those "dots" you see. And working with a music with a different tempo means I can't cut it as I please and make them play in a differen't way. For example: I want to have a part to repeat more times in a music that works in a completely different tempo, but I can't cut that specific part because when I cut it and put in the music it comes completely wrong and offbeat. About composing: That's one of the main reasons I started my hiatus I mentioned in the first page using a quote from my facebook page. I want to start trying to compose something for my musics and want to start getting some musics by ear (because there is no midi to work with). I'll get the keyboard someday and see if I can get anything. Oh wow you got a whole history! Early 2000s I was... Ehm... first discovering what music really was, I think. I remember having a 'latest hits' CD on while washing the dishes with my mom, but that's about it. Then again, that difference may be either due to your father being involved in music (or well, he's using those keyboards for something right? XD), or just an age difference as well. XD Exactly why I could NEVER work with a different tempo... I see now that I have used a midi myself, that you could do things in a different tempo like this, yeah. And haha, I hope it was enjoyable at the very least! I'm not a rare breed, though, just one of the millions doing music in FL studio, I think. Regardless, it's pretty interesting to see how other people do things! And I don't know how open you are to this, but if you want to work together on something somehow, I don't mind. I do vocals as well (with an almost embarrassingly obvious sample of an anime ost. If you know the original, you'll recognize it immediately!), so there's a lot of options. I could take your .flp and/or a .wav, and flip it into a hiphop remix of your remix (remix-ception?), or add particular things to a project of yourself, or I could, as said above, add vocals to a track of yours, if you'd be interested of course. If you'd rather just do you, and stick to that, no problem. If you're finished with your first own composition, though, I wanna hear about it!
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Post by [Vitz!] on Mar 23, 2015 14:02:56 GMT -5
Age difference too. I'm four years older than you.
And for the different tempo: The only way you can work properly is if the midi has a tempo that have a mathematically perfect division like 160/80 = 2. That's not the case of that Doom music I posted earlier so it is impossible to edit properly in the playlist.
I said you are a rare breed because most people, musicians or not, don't tend to be very interested in complete amateurs like me and i'm also one of the people with the worst luck for arts in general since most people doesn't seem to care about what I do at all.
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Post by TheAtom on Mar 25, 2015 6:10:27 GMT -5
Age difference too. I'm four years older than you. And for the different tempo: The only way you can work properly is if the midi has a tempo that have a mathematically perfect division like 160/80 = 2. That's not the case of that Doom music I posted earlier so it is impossible to edit properly in the playlist. I said you are a rare breed because most people, musicians or not, don't tend to be very interested in complete amateurs like me and i'm also one of the people with the worst luck for arts in general since most people doesn't seem to care about what I do at all. I'll just take it as a compliment then But from my perspective, it's really just talking to another guy making music, and seeing another's process of working. It's educative and interesting to see another's point of view
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Post by [Vitz!] on Mar 25, 2015 17:25:51 GMT -5
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Post by [Vitz!] on Jul 2, 2015 16:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by [Vitz!] on Jul 6, 2015 21:05:03 GMT -5
SoundCloud: soundcloud.com/ateliedovitz/regular-refineryWhat about starting your week with a bit of DOOM? That music is the one from the "Refinery" level and that intermissions we have between the levels! I hope you guys enjoy this piece!
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Post by [Vitz!] on Jul 9, 2015 17:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by [Vitz!] on Aug 31, 2015 9:49:44 GMT -5
Posted a unfinished work on my channel. I think it is interesting to post it here too.
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Post by [Vitz!] on Sept 1, 2015 17:07:27 GMT -5
Another unfinished. This time is Megadeth's Hangar 18 remixed. Enjoy the mess!
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Post by [Vitz!] on Nov 3, 2015 21:49:17 GMT -5
A Digimon World 1 remix.
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Post by [Vitz!] on Dec 21, 2015 13:00:11 GMT -5
A Final Fantasy X remix
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Post by [Vitz!] on Dec 29, 2015 21:55:22 GMT -5
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