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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 2:05:30 GMT -5
More fans more support for the series how is that a bad thing? but whatever it what it is though and yeah it might not be to your standards but if fanservice was gonna be that much a problem why bother getting into it in the first place? The story and lore? ecchi was always going to be apart the series and that should of well been known when it was advertised. It should also been known that takaki would of went further with it eventually no excuse in the world is gonna stop that fact.
It's sexual themes whether nipples show or not so why the caught feelings? O and that not showing full nudity ain't nothing new so senran kagura is barely unique in that aspect, all in all you can't deny its meant to be some form of visual appeal or visual entertainment so those "fans" were already there.
Before you get into the "justified" aspect let me ask you, do you look for justification in a horror movie or anime when its gets gory and doesn't really need to? Or how about something like gears of war or mortal kombat two series that I like btw do they need to justifed their content as well?
If not whats with all this nose up in the air morality shtick? Kinda disappointing considering I figure you guys would be a little bit more tolerable to things considering this series but o well.
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 2:56:36 GMT -5
That's still to be seen. The Vita version of EV didn't do that well either and the PS4 version had a much smaller run. Plus, the most vocal section of the japanese fandom is specially biased against SK2 for some reason. I remember how the supposed bugs were brought again and again as MASSIVE ISSUES of SK2 and now, EV is plagued by bugs even AFTER a day 1 patch and the outrage is nowhere in the same scale. Because 3ds can't do a day one patch unless the dev team already know like most they took weeks for multiple patchs to bugs
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 2:59:30 GMT -5
After the failure that was SK2 they got desperate since both game were being made at the same time and SK2 fail could stop momentum for EV. Wait, SK2 didn't due well? Also they wanted it to be bigger than EV? Mind explains this in-depth? I could use this info for part 2 of my video series. Currently SK2 is the most expensive sk game they made so ya they had high hopes to go with a new engine.
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 3:09:40 GMT -5
More fans more support for the series how is that a bad thing? but whatever it what it is though and yeah it might not be to your standards but if fanservice was gonna be that much a problem why bother getting into it in the first place? The story and lore? ecchi was always going to be apart the series and that should of well been known when it was advertised. It should also been known that takaki would of went further with it eventually no excuse in the world is gonna stop that fact. It's sexual themes whether nipples show or not so why the caught feelings? O and that not showing full nudity ain't nothing new so senran kagura is barely unique in that aspect, all in all you can't deny its meant to be some form of visual appeal or visual entertainment so those "fans" were already there. Before you get into the "justified" aspect let me ask you, do you look for justification in a horror movie or anime when its gets gory and doesn't really need to? Or how about something like gears of war or mortal kombat two series that I like btw do they need to justifed their content as well? If not whats with all this nose up in the air morality shtick? Kinda disappointing considering I figure you guys would be a little bit more tolerable to things considering this series but o well. So you generalize the whole board?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 3:24:06 GMT -5
More fans more support for the series how is that a bad thing? but whatever it what it is though and yeah it might not be to your standards but if fanservice was gonna be that much a problem why bother getting into it in the first place? The story and lore? ecchi was always going to be apart the series and that should of well been known when it was advertised. It should also been known that takaki would of went further with it eventually no excuse in the world is gonna stop that fact. It's sexual themes whether nipples show or not so why the caught feelings? O and that not showing full nudity ain't nothing new so senran kagura is barely unique in that aspect, all in all you can't deny its meant to be some form of visual appeal or visual entertainment so those "fans" were already there. Before you get into the "justified" aspect let me ask you, do you look for justification in a horror movie or anime when its gets gory and doesn't really need to? Or how about something like gears of war or mortal kombat two series that I like btw do they need to justifed their content as well? If not whats with all this nose up in the air morality shtick? Kinda disappointing considering I figure you guys would be a little bit more tolerable to things considering this series but o well. So you generalize the whole board? All right not everybody but lately? a heck of a lot of people that post at least.
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 3:28:47 GMT -5
So you generalize the whole board? All right not everybody but lately? a heck of a lot of people that post at least. Like the same 2 people.
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Post by tzitzimine on Mar 31, 2015 3:42:25 GMT -5
Because 3ds can't do a day one patch unless the dev team already know like most they took weeks for multiple patchs to bugs So you're saying that is fine to deliver a half baked game because it can be patched since day 1? You can't be serious. More fans more support for the series how is that a bad thing? but whatever it what it is though and yeah it might not be to your standards but if fanservice was gonna be that much a problem why bother getting into it in the first place? The story and lore? ecchi was always going to be apart the series and that should of well been known when it was advertised. It should also been known that takaki would of went further with it eventually no excuse in the world is gonna stop that fact. It's sexual themes whether nipples show or not so why the caught feelings? O and that not showing full nudity ain't nothing new so senran kagura is barely unique in that aspect, all in all you can't deny its meant to be some form of visual appeal or visual entertainment so those "fans" were already there. Before you get into the "justified" aspect let me ask you, do you look for justification in a horror movie or anime when its gets gory and doesn't really need to? Or how about something like gears of war or mortal kombat two series that I like btw do they need to justifed their content as well? If not whats with all this nose up in the air morality shtick? Kinda disappointing considering I figure you guys would be a little bit more tolerable to things considering this series but o well. I got into SK precisely for the story and the characters, the fanservice is just an add on that I can live without. I'm pretty tolerant but I just can't stand all the "She's my waifu" or "Which Senran would you like to impregnate" or "TITS!!!!!!" talk anymore.
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Post by cltheo on Mar 31, 2015 4:40:16 GMT -5
Wait, SK2 didn't due well? Also they wanted it to be bigger than EV? Mind explains this in-depth? I could use this info for part 2 of my video series. Currently SK2 is the most expensive sk game they made so ya they had high hopes to go with a new engine. So even Estival underperformed? The series seemed to be catching steam with all the adaptations. It's surprising to hear even the 3ds games underperformed. There a reason? The playstation games fair better?
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 4:43:46 GMT -5
Because 3ds can't do a day one patch unless the dev team already know like most they took weeks for multiple patchs to bugs So you're saying that is fine to deliver a half baked game because it can be patched since day 1? You can't be serious. More fans more support for the series how is that a bad thing? but whatever it what it is though and yeah it might not be to your standards but if fanservice was gonna be that much a problem why bother getting into it in the first place? The story and lore? ecchi was always going to be apart the series and that should of well been known when it was advertised. It should also been known that takaki would of went further with it eventually no excuse in the world is gonna stop that fact. It's sexual themes whether nipples show or not so why the caught feelings? O and that not showing full nudity ain't nothing new so senran kagura is barely unique in that aspect, all in all you can't deny its meant to be some form of visual appeal or visual entertainment so those "fans" were already there. Before you get into the "justified" aspect let me ask you, do you look for justification in a horror movie or anime when its gets gory and doesn't really need to? Or how about something like gears of war or mortal kombat two series that I like btw do they need to justifed their content as well? If not whats with all this nose up in the air morality shtick? Kinda disappointing considering I figure you guys would be a little bit more tolerable to things considering this series but o well. I got into SK precisely for the story and the characters, the fanservice is just an add on that I can live without. I'm pretty tolerant but I just can't stand all the "She's my waifu" or "Which Senran would you like to impregnate" or "TITS!!!!!!" talk anymore. It EV is not half baked. The majority spoke SK2 they did not like that direction the series was going. It easy to tell them to do it again when you are not the one losing money.
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 4:49:17 GMT -5
Currently SK2 is the most expensive sk game they made so ya they had high hopes to go with a new engine. So even Estival underperformed? The series seemed to be catching steam with all the adaptations. It's surprising to hear even the 3ds games underperformed. There a reasonhe playstation games fair better? Numbers are not out until tomorrow so we don't know but it is looking good lack of Ps4 games help. Only one game underperformed SK2 but it cost the most to make so they have all the reason to be scared.
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Post by cltheo on Mar 31, 2015 4:51:56 GMT -5
So even Estival underperformed? The series seemed to be catching steam with all the adaptations. It's surprising to hear even the 3ds games underperformed. There a reasonhe playstation games fair better? Numbers are not out until tomorrow so we don't know but it is looking good lack of Ps4 games help. Hate to keep bugging you, but you got so much information! So people didnt like SK2 because of its direction? It looked like versus but with an ai partner to assist you. It was hated? Was it because of how different it was from versus?
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 31, 2015 5:04:16 GMT -5
I don't think Japanese players like tag format for action / fighting games. Visually it was far from the original sk bright colors and more dark. Difficult was a big issue forcing everyone that brought the game to spam one Attack then patch issue and bad reviews day 1 on amazon. It was not pretty. So bad that kagura and nAraku get no love as they hAve no new wave cards.
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Post by l3xjam3s on Mar 31, 2015 7:32:36 GMT -5
I got into SK precisely for the story and the characters, the fanservice is just an add on that I can live without. I'm pretty tolerant but I just can't stand all the "She's my waifu" or "Which Senran would you like to impregnate" or "TITS!!!!!!" talk anymore. Damn, dude. I respect you so much now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 13:04:55 GMT -5
Well if they are talking about waifus that must mean they are into the characters as well and the story in some way so I doubt those people are going to hinder the story or make takaki just say MOAR FANSERVICE! just because they find other ways to be entertained by it that you don't agree with.
As for the story concerns you could of went to any warring ninja factions demon battling series other then the likes of naruto I'm sure there are few but you choose the one where fanservice separates it from the others? Idk man if naked anime girls are going to be a great tragedy for me I wouldn't even bother no matter how much I like some of the characters or their designs.
Anyway you have your beliefs on the topic so I'll leave it at that, don't want to seem like I'm trying to change your mind just curious about the oddity of the situation.
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Post by tzitzimine on Mar 31, 2015 14:23:53 GMT -5
Well if they are talking about waifus that must mean they are into the characters as well and the story in some way so I doubt those people are going to hinder the story or make takaki just say MOAR FANSERVICE! just because they find other ways to be entertained by it that you don't agree with. As for the story concerns you could of went to any warring ninja factions demon battling series other then the likes of naruto I'm sure there are few but you choose the one where fanservice separates it from the others? Idk man if naked anime girls are going to be a great tragedy for me I wouldn't even bother no matter how much I like some of the characters or their designs. Anyway you have your beliefs on the topic so I'll leave it at that, don't want to seem like I'm trying to change your mind just curious about the oddity of the situation. You're gorssly oversimplifying things (and to be honest I found somewhat insulting that "if you wanted to see ninjas fighting demons then you could've picked any other series). I liked SK precisely because there was a story and well developed characters DESPITE the fanservice. The girls have sexy bodies and get into sexy shanenigans but well, that's something entirely natural. Within the game they weren't defined by their bodies, they were defined by their actions and convictions. That make the series stand out (and believe me I've seen my good share of fanservice series and I never finish those) and gave it a great little niche. Upping the fanservice in way so blatant is dissapointing because is turning off a lot peope and essentially, making the fanbase stale. Just see this comment I found on another board I greatly enjoy the series and I want to share with all the people possible so in turns it only makes it bigger and better but this is not the way to do it. And I'm all for people enjoying different stuff but these days the bulk of the fandom is so "poisonous" that they literally pile up on you if you don't like what they like. I know that I'm very harsh and outspoken with my critics but I've never said that people shouldn't bought/enjoy something, just that I don't enjoy it.
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