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Post by TwinTails on Oct 30, 2012 17:20:25 GMT -5
So, who's getting the Wii U sooner or later? Well, I'll just leave it at this. Rant about anything below.
I'll post more videos after this later.
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 30, 2012 17:31:40 GMT -5
Nothing to rant about Wii U is an uneeded system I rather a 3DS revision region free and let Nintendo sit out a gen to get there money and everything else right let the others fight it out. A nintendo handheld with 100% support instead of 50% is better plus 3rd parties always loved nintendo for there handheld. Nintendo like many said don't need HD and graphics if this iis so then 3DS level is all they need so Wii U is usless it will only hurt them. This can only end the gamecube way for them there is no other way.
Nintendo handhelds : 3rd party support Nintendo Home console : little to none compared to there handhelds
You think it would be easy for nintendo too see this too.
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Post by TwinTails on Oct 30, 2012 18:08:26 GMT -5
Nothing to rant about Wii U is an uneeded system I rather a 3DS revision region free and let Nintendo sit out a gen to get there money and everything else right let the others fight it out. A nintendo handheld with 100% support instead of 50% is better plus 3rd parties always loved nintendo for there handheld. Nintendo like many said don't need HD and graphics if this iis so then 3DS level is all they need so Wii U is usless it will only hurt them. This can only end the gamecube way for them there is no other way. Nintendo handhelds : 3rd party support Nintendo Home console : little to none compared to there handhelds You think it would be easy for nintendo too see this too. Well, that's Japan (and only Japan). In the West, handhelds may be strong too, but home consoles are blowing them out of the water. If Ninty "sits this one out", they could lose the majority of sales in the west or any region other than Japan. Plus, there's already over 300,000 Wii U preorders right now. There's alot of third parties in Japan that still care about home consoles too, they're even developing games for the Wii U as we speak. The third parties in the west don't even look at the 3DS, they haven't been giving Nintendo a chance at all, lately. And In going off of what you said, let's look at Sony for a minute. The Vita should be selling like hotcakes (but only pushed 46,877 units) but, the PS3 sold 6,341,950 units as of April 2011 in Japan. So there's still is a place for home consoles over there, right?
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 30, 2012 18:21:15 GMT -5
Its the world. putting there full support behind a 3DS and maybe an upgraded tablet version down the line is better then going to home market will they will not see support. At least in a mobile inviroment they have a chance to bring in those guys that have moved to that sector of gaming these are new devs the old one as lost because they have there idea of what nintendo is so what the point of throwing money at them? Just to sell wii u for 1 year and then all 3rd parties jump ship.
Vita is not needed thats the thing much like wii U will be. Nintendo will be in this position that Sony is in. THe PSP was klling 3DS Vita was not needed they just wanted something new much like nintendo. 3DS was needed they just did not handle the system well. Now 3DS needs all there support in the gobal handheld market if they leave it for the Wii U I don't know what will happen.
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 30, 2012 18:24:27 GMT -5
Nintendo has stated they are not in the arms race and they are not going to buy exclusives so if this is so then there is no need for a Wii U since this is what the other sytems will be doing when they launch.
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Post by TwinTails on Oct 30, 2012 18:44:40 GMT -5
Its the world. putting there full support behind a 3DS and maybe an upgraded tablet version down the line is better then going to home market will they will not see support. At least in a mobile inviroment they have a chance to bring in those guys that have moved to that sector of gaming these are new devs the old one as lost because they have there idea of what nintendo is so what the point of throwing money at them? Just to sell wii u for 1 year and then all 3rd parties jump ship. Vita is not needed thats the thing much like wii U will be. Nintendo will be in this position that Sony is in. THe PSP was klling 3DS Vita was not needed they just wanted something new much like nintendo. 3DS was needed they just did not handle the system well. Now 3DS needs all there support in the gobal handheld market if they leave it for the Wii U I don't know what will happen.
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 30, 2012 18:57:26 GMT -5
Its the world. putting there full support behind a 3DS and maybe an upgraded tablet version down the line is better then going to home market will they will not see support. At least in a mobile inviroment they have a chance to bring in those guys that have moved to that sector of gaming these are new devs the old one as lost because they have there idea of what nintendo is so what the point of throwing money at them? Just to sell wii u for 1 year and then all 3rd parties jump ship. Vita is not needed thats the thing much like wii U will be. Nintendo will be in this position that Sony is in. THe PSP was klling 3DS Vita was not needed they just wanted something new much like nintendo. 3DS was needed they just did not handle the system well. Now 3DS needs all there support in the gobal handheld market if they leave it for the Wii U I don't know what will happen. Common sense thats why I said not really a rant. they are too far behind like kojima said about most japanese to understand the new tools and tech being used to to compete on all level this is including online is crazy to thing they can do out the gate and people will not give them any more time to learn in the west there is alot of hate for Nintendo in the development community so how long will the third party games come. 3DS has little to no b western support why would this change for the Wii U it would only get worst. like most said it will be a port box until the next systems. I think they relly should have been the first too the market with a real tablet dedicated gaming device that still has all the functions of a tablet with no corners cut. at least that would make them stand out from the other big systems. People talk about gaming is going to crash why would you want nintendo to go along with it in this race for more power.
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Post by TwinTails on Oct 30, 2012 19:32:37 GMT -5
Common sense that's why I said not really a rant. they are too far behind like Kojima said about most Japanese to understand the new tools and tech being used to to compete on all level this is including online is crazy to thing they can do out the gate and people will not give them any more time to learn in the west there is alot of hate for Nintendo in the development community so how long will the third party games come. 3DS has little to no western support why would this change for the Wii U it would only get worst. like most said it will be a port box until the next systems. I think they really should have been the first too the market with a real tablet dedicated gaming device that still has all the functions of a tablet with no corners cut. at least that would make them stand out from the other big systems. People talk about gaming is going to crash why would you want Nintendo to go along with it in this race for more power. Well, western companies never really hated Nintendo, they couldn't develop for their system (Wii) because it was too weak. It won't be a port box for long as the other systems have 2-3 years to come out and a recent survey showed that companies will stop making games for current gen systems sometime after 2013 hits. What will they make games for then, the Wii U will be the only one available until then, and I still mentioned Japanese companies still care about home consoles, like Capcom, Namco, Sqaure or Tecmo. Consoles, other than handhelds, have the horsepower to run the games that companies are trying to make, so that gives the Wii U a chance over the 3DS. And there may even be 2-4 games that you would have to buy a Wii U for, there's probably tons of Japanese gamers itching for the next console Mario or Zelda game. You can't really call it a port machine because no console launch anywhere has ever been that great. It has a few new and original exclusive games still in development for it. Well hell, tons of Japanese developers see great potential in Nintendo's upcoming home console: andriasang.com/con1ji/wii_u_commentary/With that, you can still say it's unneeded but, that doesn't mean the Japanese market would ignore the system completely.
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 30, 2012 22:32:54 GMT -5
Common sense that's why I said not really a rant. they are too far behind like Kojima said about most Japanese to understand the new tools and tech being used to to compete on all level this is including online is crazy to thing they can do out the gate and people will not give them any more time to learn in the west there is alot of hate for Nintendo in the development community so how long will the third party games come. 3DS has little to no western support why would this change for the Wii U it would only get worst. like most said it will be a port box until the next systems. I think they really should have been the first too the market with a real tablet dedicated gaming device that still has all the functions of a tablet with no corners cut. at least that would make them stand out from the other big systems. People talk about gaming is going to crash why would you want Nintendo to go along with it in this race for more power. Well, western companies never really hated Nintendo, they couldn't develop for their system (Wii) because it was too weak. It won't be a port box for long as the other systems have 2-3 years to come out and a recent survey showed that companies will stop making games for current gen systems sometime after 2013 hits. What will they make games for then, the Wii U will be the only one available until then, and I still mentioned Japanese companies still care about home consoles, like Capcom, Namco, Sqaure or Tecmo. Consoles, other than handhelds, have the horsepower to run the games that companies are trying to make, so that gives the Wii U a chance over the 3DS. And there may even be 2-4 games that you would have to buy a Wii U for, there's probably tons of Japanese gamers itching for the next console Mario or Zelda game. You can't really call it a port machine because no console launch anywhere has ever been that great. It has a few new and original exclusive games still in development for it. Well hell, tons of Japanese developers see great potential in Nintendo's upcoming home console: andriasang.com/con1ji/wii_u_commentary/With that, you can still say it's unneeded but, that doesn't mean the Japanese market would ignore the system completely. You are correct all sigens point to it doing what better in japan but thats because japan has not advanced much to care about tech when it comes to games so this is good for japan but just like the 3DS its not good if they can't sell the system worldwide and software with it not just the system. Nintendo is going to have to comit to one box one platform for all there games. they need every brand they got to give everyone a reason to get one. The pokemon fan never has to get a nintendo home console this is now bad as they need those huge sales. I would rather them move mobile and get there first then stay in the home market as that battle will get expensive fast.
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Post by JackAtlas on Nov 14, 2012 6:24:24 GMT -5
Its the world. putting there full support behind a 3DS and maybe an upgraded tablet version down the line is better then going to home market will they will not see support. At least in a mobile inviroment they have a chance to bring in those guys that have moved to that sector of gaming these are new devs the old one as lost because they have there idea of what nintendo is so what the point of throwing money at them? Just to sell wii u for 1 year and then all 3rd parties jump ship. Vita is not needed thats the thing much like wii U will be. Nintendo will be in this position that Sony is in. THe PSP was klling 3DS Vita was not needed they just wanted something new much like nintendo. 3DS was needed they just did not handle the system well. Now 3DS needs all there support in the gobal handheld market if they leave it for the Wii U I don't know what will happen. I really wish I had a Chris Angel "Mind Freak" Gif to express the laughter this exchange made me go through. I think Spider-Man set off my "sarcasm sense." One really good reason we're needing the Wii U is the game industry's economic welfare is going down the toilet. I don't think the East or the West wants an industry crash.
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