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Post by ateliertohka on Sept 27, 2016 11:08:48 GMT -5
And since it's an action game, the primary focus should be on the combat and not having a large character roster. Having more character rosters doesn't make the game better. And Street Fighter V isn't a good example because that game didn't meet its sales goal. It was supposed to sell 2 million. It sold 1.4 million. A game that doesn't meet its fiscal goal isn't a good model to follow no matter how you look at it. but Dynasty Warriors is still relevant because of the larger rosters and more variety to choose from. do you honestly think most fans play Senran Kagura for deep/innovative combat over character selection and size of the selection? and they can give every new girl differences in moves/animations, especially their signature, so really no two girls are alike, and Shinovi showed they can afford to add 2 teams. Estival Versus was rushed, but even then it accomplished adding 5 new characters, not counting the DLC expanding the roster with 4 playable characters from the Senran Kagura universe (and it would be double that if all the DLC were dedicated to adding Senran Kagura only characters. in place of Ayane and the Ikkitousen girls, they could have added Ayame's full team senrankagura-fc.deviantart.com/art/New-Hanzo-Team-Ayame-500096647 ). also the rants of DLC characters not having story missions attached, are minor complaints and people still widely use the DLC characters regardless. so yea the series is niche, but so is dynasty warriors, even though DW has a longer legacy and larger fanbase, Estival can built momentum in the west if it expands well enough . and Takaki also said Senran Kagura will get bigger like the girls breasts. they sure would be a aware that size matters, roster included. while Japan is kind of ho hum about it, Senran Kagura could be kind of like Castlevania, in that Castlevania was more popular in the west than Japan, but that series kinda dropped because of konami, and also because the developer went outside of their expertise and winning formula (and 3D castlevanias really cost them a lot in their reputation and budget, as well as that lame fighting game. ) Senran Kagura has a winning formula with Shinovi/Estival gameplay, so it can build upon that on PS4. I dont know how well it sold on PS4 in the west, but if they keep at it, and stick with their bread and butter PS4 formula, they can make Senran Kagura a household name and perhaps become as popular as Dark Souls (don't laugh!) ok it may still be niche, but the next game can generate more popularity and success if they design it right and surpass Estival standards of selection/content. and it'll be easy to surpass its storytelling if they get more new teams involved and expand Senran Kagura. I mean really if you think about it, SK is still in its infancy, only 4-5 factions and currently only 5 girls representing each faction. Unlike naruto which focuses on a few factions with tons of active ninjas in each faction, Senran Kagura having the 5 girl members format, can afford to have larger amount of factions involved. in Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires, you can have over 20 factions warring for dominance, so Senran Kagura with its story can shine the light on newcomers, and still get everyone involved. they can develop the characters, and pretty much the current ones are pretty much set on their resolve and stuff. they can still get involved in the fights and interactions, but the newcomers could be the focus for character development and learning about them. if a manga like One Piece can balance tons of characters and factions, so can Senran Kagura, and without needing as much indepth storytelling. though yea it's speculation, there's really no idea what exactly the new game is gonna be like, though in my opinion they aren't taking full advantage of the videogame series keeping it small. That's just it, though. I have no idea what anyone else wants. And I don't need to know, either. It's not relevant to me, personally. I am speaking solely based on my own personal opinions and preferences, and from that perspective, I want to say that Deep Crimson introduced a lot of elements, like tag team combat, co-op, and giant boss fights, that I personally think that future games could benefit from, and that includes the Versus series. I don't know how many others think the same way, but that kind of information isn't going to influence how I think in any particular way. Speaking solely from a personal standpoint, I would much prefer a smaller roster with great gameplay as opposed to a larger roster with subpar gameplay. Now, I'm not saying that Estival Versus was subpar, just that it didn't completely satisfy my personal desires for a game like this. Again, I don't know about anyone else. All I know is what I personally would like to see. That's good enough for me.
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Post by HikageIsBestGirl on Sept 27, 2016 11:12:49 GMT -5
There may be something going on tomorrow. Maybe.
The stream linked to will have a segment on Summer Lesson, and then apparently afterwards, something related to SK should show up, apparently. not entirely sure. but he did use the hashtag at the end.
this stream is different from the streams from the past, as this one is a Famitsu stream.
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Post by ateliertohka on Sept 27, 2016 12:05:49 GMT -5
That'll be something to look forward to.
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Post by eyesonthighs on Sept 27, 2016 17:09:38 GMT -5
I'm excited to know what they are planning for Senran next.
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Post by 4evashiki on Sept 28, 2016 0:46:58 GMT -5
Yeah I doubt they'd add all the SK New Wave girls in the game, but I wouldn't put it past them to have some in. Kenchiro did add Souji, Leo, and Yuyaki's costumes in SKEV, and they are one of the bigger characters among the card girls. Plus Kenchiro also has Leo (well more so her chest) on his twitter account. Plus with Ayame added to SKEV, she'll have to do something so that she doesn't feel like just a Katsuragi fangirl. Plus the new Hanzo and new Hebijo girls could fit well in the story since the current Hanzo and Hebijo (along with Homura's Crimson Squad) could mentor them. Plus Yuyaki and Leo's teams are elite ninjas, which would make for some even more powerful rivals. Also seeing as Yuyaki and Leo's team don't have specific descriptions like the other New Wave teams have, that could be developed in the new SK game. Also imo, I don't think either characters from the 4 teams would really clash with other characters so much where they are too similar. I think the edition of these 4 teams would be good enough.
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Post by ateliertohka on Sept 28, 2016 1:03:29 GMT -5
Yeah I doubt they'd add all the SK New Wave girls in the game, but I wouldn't put it past them to have some in. Kenchiro did add Souji, Leo, and Yuyaki's costumes in SKEV, and they are one of the bigger characters among the card girls. Plus Kenchiro also has Leo (well more so her chest) on his twitter account. Plus with Ayame added to SKEV, she'll have to do something so that she doesn't feel like just a Katsuragi fangirl. Plus the new Hanzo and new Hebijo girls could fit well in the story since the current Hanzo and Hebijo (along with Homura's Crimson Squad) could mentor them. Plus Yuyaki and Leo's teams are elite ninjas, which would make for some even more powerful rivals. Also seeing as Yuyaki and Leo's team don't have specific descriptions like the other New Wave teams have, that could be developed in the new SK game. Also imo, I don't think either characters from the 4 teams would really clash with other characters so much where they are too similar. I think the edition of these 4 teams would be good enough. Well, I know Kochou and Tsubame, characters I would love to see more of, most likely aren't going to make the cut, which kinda makes me sad.
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Post by eyesonthighs on Sept 28, 2016 2:17:39 GMT -5
Stand strong folk, fingers are crossed.
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Post by 4evashiki on Sept 29, 2016 7:43:37 GMT -5
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Post by augen on Sept 29, 2016 8:07:13 GMT -5
Was this all that was shown? Are we guessing the water gun spin off game in 2017?
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Post by augen on Sept 29, 2016 9:00:33 GMT -5
gematsu.com/2016/09/new-senran-kagura-game-announced-october-6The October 20 issue of Weekly Famitsu, due out on October 6, will have the official announcement of the next Senran Kagura game, series producer Kenichiro Takaki said during a Famitsu live stream today. Takaki brought with him a piece of artwork showing Senran Kagura character Yagyuu wearing a swimsuit and wielding a watergun-looking pistol. The producer also mentioned that he wants to do something with virtual reality. Perhaps the next Senran Kagura game features a PlayStation VR component? --------------- Now a countdown to 6th of October, least we know will be an announcement.
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Post by Psykokilla on Sept 29, 2016 9:23:16 GMT -5
A Tps with VR compatibility ? Maybe.
If it's the case : I'm very disappointed. I want a new amazing episode, not a splatoon-like with Sk universe.
So, I really hope I'm wrong.
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Post by tppr10 on Sept 29, 2016 10:07:42 GMT -5
Tanaka teases with the best girl. He has good taste.
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Post by dreadbehemoth on Sept 29, 2016 11:00:04 GMT -5
Don't know what to think : watergun fights could be really fun, but I expected a following to Deep Crimson. Gameplay was nice in every SK game, but I want the storytelling of Burst back ! The feels you get when backstory of every girl is revealed :drool:
On a good note, all of my YES for Yagyuu's new haircut : she's now the sexiest of Hanzo Academy by far, IMO.
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Post by Ayacchi on Sept 29, 2016 12:12:39 GMT -5
Alrighty. I have just now updated the first page of the thread with the news we got today. I'm also going to move this thread to the Games section now so if anyone can't find the thread, it will be there now. : )
It will be called Senran Kagura 2017 Discussion until the official title is announced.
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Post by ateliertohka on Sept 29, 2016 12:18:55 GMT -5
Looks like all signs point to the water gun game. Looking forward to learning more next week. I could easily be happy with more games like this.
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