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Post by FlamingYu on Nov 17, 2012 9:09:15 GMT -5
Zorogou, is there a bigger image of the boxart? I randomly came across that on 2ch, there might be one but I haven't found it. Best bet is to wait for AmazonJP to upload a version, they usually upload really high resolution images for products for some reason. Hope they don't bring that horrible Burst frame rate to Shinovi VS. They should really work on it. Maybe like simplifying the grunt models since they are going to be a lot of them *points at the screenshot above.*. Anyone with keen eyes saw any gameplay lags and such in the trailer? ;D ;D The framerate wasn't that bad was it? I didn't see any slow down nor come across anything that hindered gameplay but for one bug, and that spawned an enemy in a location I couldn't possibly get to. I don't think they need to simplify character models, they're probably already trying to optimise them, doesn't the VITA have some pretty good specs? But I don't know how well a game like this/Musou games fare on this system. Finally, the game is a work in progress, we can't start bashing it for slowdowns when it's not even completed. If it's finished and has crazy issues like Code of Princess, then I'd start complaining. It was bad enough for my non-gamer sis to notice and asked why am I playing a laggy game. I've never encounter the bug you mention . Dynasty Warriors NEXT (VITA) Obviously the graphics is a lot better than Shinovi VS, if this can run that good then...
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Post by zorogou on Nov 17, 2012 9:30:59 GMT -5
That's so strange, I don't remember any framerate issues at all when I played it.
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Post by Yomi on Nov 17, 2012 12:37:37 GMT -5
Will that Yomi mousepad be sold or is it a giveaway, because if that will be in any Japanese store, they will be taking my money.
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Post by Dai-T on Nov 17, 2012 19:02:37 GMT -5
That's so strange, I don't remember any framerate issues at all when I played it. Guess I will explain it. Burst has a better framerate then Portrait the thing is Portrait had many works arounds and was a faster and more simple system. With Burst all these work arounds were took out so when the frame rate drops you would feel it more then the first game givin the system changes in all the modes. Easiest way to test this is learn how to move fast in bust with no enemies on screen then once enemies appear watch the framerate drop and you have to alt the way you are moving just to make up for the drops. First game nothing changed because originaly advance movment was the work around for all the frame issue's in the first game. Even easier then that just pick Crimson Homura and watch as the framerate go to hell in everything she does. The reason you felt nothing is becuse you were focused on killing enemies and even with frame drops here it does not really affect the game as much because you are either in a combo or ninpou but yes you can still see it here as well. Its not really a game breaker either way. I found work arounds for this issue with most all characters but there is not one easy way like the first game though. Off topic post
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Post by Hinata on Nov 17, 2012 23:05:20 GMT -5
As an avid Musou game player, I can tell you it is almost guaranteed to have slowdown, at least in some parts of the game. I don't think the general framerate will be too bad though. I have DW Next, and that runs relatively smooth, even with higher quality models and lighting than Shinovi VS.
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Post by FlamingYu on Nov 18, 2012 3:45:50 GMT -5
As an avid Musou game player, I can tell you it is almost guaranteed to have slowdown, at least in some parts of the game. I don't think the general framerate will be too bad though. I have DW Next, and that runs relatively smooth, even with higher quality models and lighting than Shinovi VS. Hope MarvelousAQL can pull it, or get some tips from Koei.
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Post by h2foxo on Nov 21, 2012 12:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by Yomi on Nov 21, 2012 14:05:59 GMT -5
Yagyuu has to have some sort of special power in that eye she keeps covered, I fear for Minori's safety if she unleashes that power due to something happening to Hibari.
Also we are overdue for a 2nd PV preferably with tons of gameplay footage.
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Post by zorogou on Nov 21, 2012 14:14:41 GMT -5
Also we are overdue for a 2nd PV preferably with tons of gameplay footage. Then you may or may not be glad to know that earlier they completed the ending song for the game.
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Post by Yomi on Nov 21, 2012 16:32:28 GMT -5
Also we are overdue for a 2nd PV preferably with tons of gameplay footage. Then you may or may not be glad to know that earlier they completed the ending song for the game. That's actually a good sign as we will get a 2nd PV soon probably with the ending theme.
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Post by Silent Protagonist on Nov 21, 2012 17:51:14 GMT -5
Homura's wearing a slightly different outfit.
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Post by zorogou on Nov 21, 2012 20:28:49 GMT -5
I got a little bored and just wanted to point out something I found. Asuka, Katsuragi and Yagyuu have all apparently had their birthday according to the information in the new Famtsu article. Asuka is now 17, Katsuragi is 18 and Yagyuu is 16 whilst on the first game's website they are 16, 17 and 15 respectively. However, they are all in the same year, the same article says Katsuragi is a 3rd year, which is a given because Katsuragi and Ikaruga would've graduated and not appeared in this game. Unless they intentionally failed and got held back...
Anyway, what does this mean? Well, assuming Hebijou follows usual Highschool holiday dates in Japan.
One, the first game's story took place sometime between July 8th (Ikaruga's birthday is the 7th) and September 7th (Asuka's birthday is the 8th). Because the events of the game happened whilst they were in school (I assume considering they mentioned 'normal students' a number of times, the Hanzou girls have clases and Hebijou is full of ninjas attending school) this means the times it took place narrows to between July 8th and July 19th (Summer vacation is July 20th to August 31st), and between September 1st and September 7th. Considering Yagyuu was hospitalised for a short while, I'd guess it took place in July. My reasoning is because a bullet wound healing in less than 6 days, even for a ninja, seems too much. You might argue the same for in less than 11 days but if it's not one then it's the other.
Two, Shinovi Versus takes place between December 24th (Yagyuu's birthday is the 23rd) and February 17th (Hibari's birthday is the 18th). However Xmas break is December 26th to January 6th, so, forgetting December 24/25, this game should take place between January 6th and February 17th.
So yeah, I was bored.
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Post by Yomi on Nov 21, 2012 20:51:08 GMT -5
My assumption that they all aged was right after all.
Having 18-19 year old HS students is pretty much not unusual in this game because you have 2 (Miyabi and Imu) that are of legal drinking age.
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Post by zorogou on Nov 21, 2012 21:36:47 GMT -5
Well, there aren't any 19 year olds in the games and 18 is the age that Japanese kids graduate from High school. Haruka and Ikaruga are the eldest of all the original cast (bar Daidouji but it's been stated she deliberately gets held back/doesn't graduate) and both of their birthdays are in July so by the time they graduate in July they'll be 19, which is normal. Regarding Imu and Miyabi, Miyabi was hospitalised for a number of years. In her case she's just going back to graduate from High school because that's something that most kids want to do, I assume, and she has the whole honour thing she wants to restore. I don't think it's like what you said, "not unusual", because there's nothing unusual about the setting if you think about it rationally. By the way, the Famitsu article has ■半蔵編ストーリー■ which basically means "Hanzou's arc". The use of 'arc' implies that there'll be others I think, which means maybe a Hebijou arc and Death Cram School arc or something. I'll just quickly mention what the bit says about the "School Festival". The rest of it seems to be the standard light/shadow, good/evil ninja stuff. "Passed down through Ninja schools for generations, the survival of the school rests on the outcome of the festival. This festival has been brought back from the Heisei period. The scale of the "school festival" is unprecedented as many ninja students get dragged into it." (I know the first two sentences are kind of contradictory so I might not have translated it right) Also, I think the recent picture of all 20 girls is actually the cover art for the limited edition version of the game. I would've thought that it'd be the standard edition though, if you recall the previous two games, both of their covers were the girls standing arms folded. We'll just have to wait and see when it appears in shops.
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Post by Yomi on Nov 21, 2012 21:43:28 GMT -5
Well, there aren't any 19 year olds in the games and 18 is the age that Japanese kids graduate from High school. Haruka and Ikaruga are the eldest of all the original cast (bar Daidouji but it's been stated she deliberately gets held back/doesn't graduate) and both of their birthdays are in July so by the time they graduate in July they'll be 19, which is normal. Regarding Imu and Miyabi, Miyabi was hospitalised for a number of years. In her case she's just going back to graduate from High school because that's something that most kids want to do, I assume, and she has the whole honour thing she wants to restore. I don't think it's like what you said, "not unusual", because there's nothing unusual about the setting if you think about it rationally. By the way, the Famitsu article has ■半蔵編ストーリー■ which basically means "Hanzou's arc". The use of 'arc' implies that there'll be others I think, which means maybe a Hebijou arc and Death Cram School arc or something. I'll just quickly mention what the bit says about the "School Festival". The rest of it seems to be the standard light/shadow, good/evil ninja stuff. "Passed down through Ninja schools for generations, the survival of the school rests on the outcome of the festival. This festival has been brought back from the Heisei period. The scale of the "school festival" is unprecedented as many ninja students get dragged into it." (I know the first two sentences are kind of contradictory so I might not have translated it right) Also, I think the recent picture of all 20 girls is actually the cover art for the limited edition version of the game. I would've thought that it'd be the standard edition though, if you recall the previous two games, both of their covers were the girls standing arms folded. We'll just have to wait and see when it appears in shops. I was referring to Shinovi Versus only not the first two games. The limited edition and standard edition covers could be posted before release on the official site or we could get a confirmation elsewhere in the near future.
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