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Post by Dai-T on Feb 27, 2014 22:48:29 GMT -5
As I said early NB is a publisher not a single dev called NB. the devs don't make decisions on where to put the series they don't have the rights too. PC goes no where because Japanese gamers don't care if they don't care then pubs don't care again it don't matter if the devs are all pro PC guys they don't make the call on any of this its publisher and consumer with devs in the middle catching the blame for everything. Whoever makes the decisions on that series should realize these facts and implement the solutions above to the console games. Is there any other reason (other than the misconception that PC is expensive) why PC isn't popular with Japanese gamers? I mean the studio that makes the games. NB has many dev studios. Don't know because it's popular with devs but not gamers. Maybe devs came from a time when pc gaming was a thing and they have memories of this. New gen gamers in japan don't have this its replaced with handheld I guess. Almost all Japanese devs have a pc gaming story.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 27, 2014 22:51:03 GMT -5
Lol you know why they do it, mobile is cheaper and brings in more money and can be done in half the time and staff. If you was In the business you would do the same thing if you job was to turn a profit. But having them in the console releases won't hurt the mobile games and it may get more people into them, want more money market parts of the IP to other forms of media. It's a win-win for them. That series is big over here so it may already be a win win for them so no motivation.
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Post by Yomi on Feb 27, 2014 22:54:49 GMT -5
Whoever makes the decisions on that series should realize these facts and implement the solutions above to the console games. Is there any other reason (other than the misconception that PC is expensive) why PC isn't popular with Japanese gamers? I mean the studio that makes the games. NB has many dev studios. Don't know because it's popular with devs but not gamers. Maybe devs came from a time when pc gaming was a thing and they have memories of this. New gen gamers in japan don't have this its replaced with handheld I guess. Almost all Japanese devs have a pc gaming story. That is because computers like the MSX 1-2, PC-88, and PC-98 were very popular back then and actually had games for every taste. Most of those developers probably would mention at least the PC-98 or 88.
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Post by Yomi on Feb 27, 2014 22:57:49 GMT -5
But having them in the console releases won't hurt the mobile games and it may get more people into them, want more money market parts of the IP to other forms of media. It's a win-win for them. That series is big over here so it may already be a win win for them so no motivation. Still you would think they'd try something a tad new with the console releases, something for a little wow factor, many other sequels in other franchises have new characters, but this franchise is slowest to implement new characters in the main titles.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 27, 2014 22:59:37 GMT -5
I mean the studio that makes the games. NB has many dev studios. Don't know because it's popular with devs but not gamers. Maybe devs came from a time when pc gaming was a thing and they have memories of this. New gen gamers in japan don't have this its replaced with handheld I guess. Almost all Japanese devs have a pc gaming story. That is because computers like the MSX 1-2, PC-88, and PC-98 were very popular back then and actually had games for every taste. Most of those developers probably would mention at least the PC-98 or 88. Much like what happens in music the new gen don't share this rich history while in the west the history has been kept in tact gen to gen some how.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 27, 2014 23:05:29 GMT -5
That series is big over here so it may already be a win win for them so no motivation. Still you would think they'd try something a tad new with the console releases, something for a little wow factor, many other sequels in other franchises have new characters, but this franchise is slowest to implement new characters in the main titles. People are scared of change they ask for it but when it goes wrong or even right sometimes they don't want it and thats half the fans gone. Even more scary now with the internet we are quick to judge and rip something apart and not take the time to look at things from a dev or publisher stand point. So everyone just does what is safe.
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Post by augen on Feb 27, 2014 23:08:16 GMT -5
Do western devs and pubs understand Japanese gamers? Or is it because they are at the top they don't need too? Seems to be the case of why should I understand you if you don't understand me. True. I think this isolationist mentality exists in the US because the market is so big here you can be fine staying domestic. That said if you are in business here you do have to interact with several distinct cultures. I would guess many Japanese came up when the economy was roaring there and Japan was considered the next big thing. The past twenty years have been sobering as Korea, Brazil, India and especially China have risen to prominence. Simply put no single national economy is big enough to ignore the world these days. It is hard as Japan can embrace foreign influence and adapt losing bits of itself or hold on and possibly fall behind. Reminds me a bit of Meiji Era actually.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 27, 2014 23:18:15 GMT -5
Do western devs and pubs understand Japanese gamers? Or is it because they are at the top they don't need too? Seems to be the case of why should I understand you if you don't understand me. True. I think this isolationist mentality exists in the US because the market is so big here you can be fine staying domestic. That said if you are in business here you do have to interact with several distinct cultures. I would guess many Japanese came up when the economy was roaring there and Japan was considered the next big thing. The past twenty years have been sobering as Korea, Brazil, India and especially China have risen to prominence. Simply put no single national economy is big enough to ignore the world these days. It is hard as Japan can embrace foreign influence and adapt losing bits of itself or hold on and possibly fall behind. Reminds me a bit of Meiji Era actually. it is funny we were talking about pc and it not being passed down to those in japan but it seems in the west Japanese games are not being passed down so the new gen will forgot as well. Already happend with fighting and shooter games.
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Post by Yomi on Feb 27, 2014 23:28:22 GMT -5
With shmups, CAVE and other companies are switching to mobile because they think it's too expensive to develop games for consoles, and it's a shame because CAVE should be developing for at the very least the Vita and 3DS.
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Post by Dai-T on Feb 27, 2014 23:50:07 GMT -5
With shmups, CAVE and other companies are switching to mobile because they think it's too expensive to develop games for consoles, and it's a shame because CAVE should be developing for at the very least the Vita and 3DS. That is a shame. I like the genre.
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Post by augen on Feb 28, 2014 13:50:29 GMT -5
I do wonder how this explains why many western gamers do not like when established IPs such as Devil May Cry and Castlevania are farmed out to western developers.
Honestly who "gets" a market is highly debatable. How would have thought five years ago that Minecraft would become the western gaming sensation it is?
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