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Post by Dai-T on Aug 14, 2014 9:44:36 GMT -5
So, when the series announced SV Nintendo fans got mad, then SK2 was announced and Sony fans got mad... Marvelous is a business and will go were the money is. If SK2 sold better than Burst (or even better yet, better than SV) then be no doubt they'd want another entry on the system. If EV bombs on the Vita next year the series may be done for (or end up on phones which is same to me). If it succeeds, I would understand the thinking that "our fans are on this system a lot more than the other one". Of course 3DS successor could be out in a few years so maybe they'll hold of and try to be early release jump start the series. Next few years will be very interesting. exactly they can get the jump on the new system before it gets flooded like 3ds now. but they have to plan ahead.
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Post by Yomi on Aug 14, 2014 10:16:01 GMT -5
Estival Versus better succeed, I don't want another much beloved franchise to be mobile only, I lost so many of them last gen even Dodonpachi, one of my favorite shmups of all time ended up on phones only, it's sad. I'm glad Cotton (my most iconic shmup of all time) didn't have to suffer the same horrible fate.
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Post by Dai-T on Aug 14, 2014 10:36:22 GMT -5
seems worst then we thought, the game did not move during the weekend. japanese sites are starting to report low sales. this could be a new love plus situation since they also have to patch bugs out the game.
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Post by Yomi on Aug 14, 2014 10:41:17 GMT -5
seems worst then we thought, the game did not move during the weekend. japanese sites are starting to report low sales. this could be a new love plus situation since they also have to patch bugs out the game. To be fair New Love Plus + also sucked hard. Too much of the same, remember this is not the standard dating sim and instead it's more of a full on virtual girlfriend experience.
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Post by allen on Aug 14, 2014 13:38:17 GMT -5
It is kinda sad to see this post is plagued by mindless fanboyism.
As long as the game is interesting, who fucking cares what platform it is on. BTW it is absurd to compare a game featured by coop with a game focus on versus.
Come on, as an adult don't whine like a kid and support the series if you really love it. If not there are plenty of stuff you can pay your attention to rather than those meanlingless fanboyism and trolling an the internet.
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Aug 14, 2014 13:44:38 GMT -5
It is kinda sad to see this post is plagued by mindless fanboyism. As long as the game is interesting, who fucking cares what platform it is on. BTW it is absurd to compare a game featured by coop with a game focus on versus. Come on, as an adult don't whine like a kid and support the series if you really love it. If not there are plenty of stuff you can pay your attention to rather than those meanlingless fanboyism and trolling an the internet. Well, I'm glad you understand the situation. Also, just because the sales is the lowest in the series so far, doesn't mean it's not successful. Also, I personally think Takaki should continue to release games on both the 3DS and the Vita, so that more fans can get into the series one way or the other. 3DS for main games while the Vita can have the spin offs. No one would feel alienated by doing this really.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 13:56:27 GMT -5
It is kinda sad to see this post is plagued by mindless fanboyism. As long as the game is interesting, who fucking cares what platform it is on. BTW it is absurd to compare a game featured by coop with a game focus on versus. Come on, as an adult don't whine like a kid and support the series if you really love it. If not there are plenty of stuff you can pay your attention to rather than those meanlingless fanboyism and trolling an the internet. Here's the thing though, I have no problem with the vita or ppl who like it, but TBH it doesn't have enough games to warrant a purchase for me. I only buy a system when it has alot of games being released for the long term. Not saying that Vita isn't, but I don't want to buy a system just to play one or few games. The vita just doesn't have enough to suit my tastes, then you label as a fanboy, I ignored Ryouna's post since I know how he is, and I don't want to start a flamewar. I didn't buy Tales of Vesperia since it's an xbox360 exclusive. Xbox360 has some games I care for, but not enough for me to go out and buy one especially since I can get most the game it has on PS3. And I presume you didn't read my little sentence in my sig huh? Nevertheless as stated if Senran Kagura goes Vita only I'll have to drop it, vita doesn't have enough games for me to justify a purchase, you may buy a system for just one game or game series but not me.
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Post by Murasame on Aug 14, 2014 13:57:10 GMT -5
I didn't mean to come across as (too much of) a fanboy, I was just tired and wanted to speak my mind about the series possibly going Vita only. I wun' do it again, dun' kill me...
EDIT: What Tiger said is also pretty much how I feel on the subject, too. :l
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:08:24 GMT -5
If it makes anyone feel better, both the Vita and 3DS are great systems. I mean, I understand how people will ally with the Vita or 3DS, but if they are going to be stubborn, cocky, biased fan-twats than they should take their thoughts somewhere else.
Not intending to start a flamewar, but I have no tolerance for that, y'know?
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Post by allen on Aug 14, 2014 14:14:18 GMT -5
I am not tagging anyone for fanboys, just saying my thoughts on some replies in this post. Nothing else.
I agree with you that if you feel unworthy to buy a hardware only because of one game, then don't buy it, though it depends on your economic capability and taste.
My point is that the fans are the fans for SK no matter it is on 3ds or Vita, and it is absurd to say "because I prefer this one to another, so the developer had better focus on one platform". A forum is a public area and those biased comments convey no meaning except for raising meaningless platform/game wars.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:18:53 GMT -5
I am not tagging anyone for fanboys, just saying my thoughts on some replies in this post. Nothing else. I agree with you that if you feel unworthy to buy a hardware only because of one game, then don't buy it, though it depends on your economic capability and taste. My point is that the fans are the fans for SK no matter it is on 3ds or Vita, and it is absurd to say "because I prefer this one to another, so the developer had better focus on one platform". A forum is a public area and those biased comments convey no meaning except for raising meaningless platform/game wars. I'm not against developers making games for multiple systems as long as it is still on my system of choice, but if it isn't on my prefered system then I ignore it then move on, much like what I do with Tales of Vesperia. No need for things to go outta hand for someone not buying a game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:24:35 GMT -5
I am not tagging anyone for fanboys, just saying my thoughts on some replies in this post. Nothing else. I agree with you that if you feel unworthy to buy a hardware only because of one game, then don't buy it, though it depends on your economic capability and taste. My point is that the fans are the fans for SK no matter it is on 3ds or Vita, and it is absurd to say "because I prefer this one to another, so the developer had better focus on one platform". A forum is a public area and those biased comments convey no meaning except for raising meaningless platform/game wars. Well said man. Although to me, biased arrogant views on platform/game wars are more worthy of just pointing and laughing at because they tend to be so "informed and fact" when really, they're just making an ass of themselves.
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Post by allen on Aug 14, 2014 14:30:47 GMT -5
I am not tagging anyone for fanboys, just saying my thoughts on some replies in this post. Nothing else. I agree with you that if you feel unworthy to buy a hardware only because of one game, then don't buy it, though it depends on your economic capability and taste. My point is that the fans are the fans for SK no matter it is on 3ds or Vita, and it is absurd to say "because I prefer this one to another, so the developer had better focus on one platform". A forum is a public area and those biased comments convey no meaning except for raising meaningless platform/game wars. I'm not against developers making games for multiple systems as long as it is still on my system of choice, but if it isn't on my prefered system then I ignore it then move on, much like what I do with Tales of Vesperia. No need for things to go outta hand for someone not buying a game. Yeah I think that is justifiable. Surely you can ignore some games not on your preferred platform as you wish, that is your individual preference and no one has the right to change your taste except for yourself. One's time is limited, I've got xbox360, vita and 3ds so I have no plan to buy a ps3 as I don't have the time to spend on so many games. But I plan to buy a WiiU because I love Bayonetta and Fatal Frame series, and a VitaTV to record gameplay for Senran EV in the future. I also have no plan to buy a PS4 or Xbox 1 as all the game that is released or scheduled to release aren't my cup of tea.
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Post by h2foxo on Aug 14, 2014 14:43:38 GMT -5
Okay people no more general system talk in this thread and i am saying that to everyone.Now moving back to the sales themselves. Dai-T you said about the weekend not doing much and sites reporting low sales. Were additional figures released to this or did they just say those exact words?
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Post by allen on Aug 14, 2014 14:54:22 GMT -5
Okay people no more general system talk in this thread and i am saying that to everyone.Now moving back to the sales themselves. Dai-T you said about the weekend not doing much and sites reporting low sales. Were additional figures released to this or did they just say those exact words? Personally I think the sales drop in SK2 is because this time Takaki chose a creative route rather than a conservative one. Though there is no way to prove it, I guess if they make a side-scroll SK2 based on the system of burst, adding some playable moe characters and enhanced framerate, it might sell much better. However Takaki is not satisfied with what they presented in Burst, SK2 for me is more or less experimental, new systems, new boss fights, online coops, actually I believe it should be considered another genre comparing with Shinei and Guren (Burst). Though it seems the acceptability is not so good as the past and the new system has both improvements and drawbacks, maybe they can make it more polished through patches or DLC. Personally I like creative ideas and think it is normal that new system has both improvements and problems. I believe they can make it better in the games to be released in the future.
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