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Post by Seventh on Jul 15, 2015 21:27:50 GMT -5
So far all of them are pairs using characters from separate teams, so it stands to reason all of them will be right now, but that could change later. Checking who fought who in SV's story, I'm guessing we'll see... Asuka-Yumi Katsuragi-Yozakura Ikaruga-Murakumo Yagyu-Shiki Hibari-Minori Homura-Miyabi Ryoubi-Mirai Imu-Haruka? Ryouna-Hikage? Murasaki-Yomi? Honestly, if these stories are fleshed out even a little bit, or even if they just extend as far as the Shinobi Hearts, I'm... actually extremely hyped for it. With 11, that leaves room for either Dai-Rin or maybe Kagura-Naraku?
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Post by Juihau on Jul 15, 2015 21:34:20 GMT -5
Couldn we look at who she fought in the main stories of SV? I'm not sure how EV does its stories, but I would think they decided them that way. The thing is, of the characters she fights (outside of New Hebijo), she really only has any connection with Mirai. She barely interacted with Ikaruga outside of introducing herself, and only did ever-so-slightly more with Yomi. Minori only succeeded in pissing her off/scaring her away, depending on the story. Even going into her Heart story, the only ones who ultimately had a positive impact on her were Asuka and Imu.
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Post by Seventh on Jul 15, 2015 21:37:25 GMT -5
Couldn we look at who she fought in the main stories of SV? I'm not sure how EV does its stories, but I would think they decided them that way. The thing is, of the characters she fights (outside of New Hebijo), she really only has any connection with Mirai. She barely interacted with Ikaruga outside of introducing herself, and only did ever-so-slightly more with Yomi. Minori only succeeded in pissing her off/scaring her away, depending on the story. Even going into her Heart story, the only ones who ultimately had a positive impact on her were Asuka and Imu. Could these modes not then be used to flesh out those other relationships more? Because they do rely on their "rivalz!!" model a whole lot to decide who to put with who.
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Post by Juihau on Jul 15, 2015 21:47:33 GMT -5
I guess they could, but Murasaki's kind of an exception to the whole rival model to begin with. The only people she has any real obligation to fight (Ikaruga, Yomi and Minori) are the closest things she has to 'rivals,' but she barely interacts with them. On the other hand, she really only fought with Mirai over a misunderstanding, and their eventual friendship ultimately has nothing to do with their fighting.
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Post by Seventh on Jul 15, 2015 21:50:21 GMT -5
Unfortunately, in cases like this, she also may just have to deal with being the odd girl out as mostly everyone else has rivals they can pair with without any major issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 21:54:04 GMT -5
That's kinda sad...
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Post by ChaddyFantome on Jul 15, 2015 22:10:57 GMT -5
Your point being? Stuff like that hadn't stopped ships before, let alone in this very series. Case and point, the aforementioned AsukaXYumi pairings. It hasn't but personally it doesn't feel like it makes sense if you ship 2 characters who aren't very attracted towards each other in that way. I thought Murasaki was jealous because they were closer during their childhood and she wanted their friendship to return to that. Agreed, but that doesn't stop 80 to 90% of pairings like AsukaXYumi from existing tho. And the same case can then be said about YagyuXhibari and MiyabiXImu then, since their relationship is a 1-way street. Just saying. There is far more of a case to be made with MurasakiXImu than most pairings ever, lol.
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Post by Seventh on Jul 15, 2015 22:16:40 GMT -5
Maybe, but on the other hand, it means she's in a situation where she "has" to be shoved out and work on her relationships with other characters, so it could potentially end well depending on how they handle it.
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Post by ChaddyFantome on Jul 15, 2015 22:21:00 GMT -5
Maybe, but on the other hand, it means she's in a situation where she "has" to be shoved out and work on her relationships with other characters, so it could potentially end well depending on how they handle it. Or just completely forced and contrived. Really depends who they put her with. I could see her having interesting interactions with Murakumo. They both have socially related insecurities and probably share geeky hobbies and such. Gives them stuff play on.
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Post by Juihau on Jul 15, 2015 22:36:03 GMT -5
Well, Murasaki is the type of character who simply can't have 'natural' or even natural-seeming interactions with people she's not already established as being familiar with. That's kind of just how she is. If you want to avoid her having 'forced' interactions, then you basically have to either limit it to her teammates and Mirai, or sacrifice the integrity of her character.
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Post by ChaddyFantome on Jul 15, 2015 22:51:32 GMT -5
Well, Murasaki is the type of character who simply can't have 'natural' or even natural-seeming interactions with people she's not already established as being familiar with. That's kind of just how she is. If you want to avoid her having 'forced' interactions, then you basically have to either limit it to her teammates and Mirai, or sacrifice the integrity of her character. My stance is that if the character interaction amounts to nothing of interest, it shouldn't happen. The only thing worse than something bad is something boring and unengaging. This is supposed to be entertaining after all. For what it is worth, I liked her interaction with Asuka in her Heart Mission. it's just not something you can just make happen by pushing the characters together is what it is, and perhaps that is a good thing because it makes for more meaningful and impactful character interactions. Either way, It was implied that (at least with guys) Murasaki is only in to 2D. xD Thinking about it now, that is really meta when you consider the demographic of the series. xD
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Post by Seventh on Jul 15, 2015 23:12:20 GMT -5
Well, Murasaki is the type of character who simply can't have 'natural' or even natural-seeming interactions with people she's not already established as being familiar with. That's kind of just how she is. If you want to avoid her having 'forced' interactions, then you basically have to either limit it to her teammates and Mirai, or sacrifice the integrity of her character. I don't think it would really sacrifice the integrity of anything. The story could create a situation that allows it to happen, or any number of things. It could even be about the other character and Murasaki just ends up dragged in as a matter of circumstance, kicking and screaming (metaphorically) all the while. I mean it's not like she has to be happy about any of whatever happen, she just has to be present, from what we know of the story thus far. Though frankly, this all is a... pretty depressing notion to me considering there are real people like Murasaki that can still have relationships and make friends out there. Most of all, just don't knock it 'til you try it and all.
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Post by Juihau on Jul 15, 2015 23:45:21 GMT -5
Well, that's...kind of what I was saying, actually. Trying to have Murasaki interact with other characters without it being forced is a futile effort, since by her very nature, she wouldn't willingly be put in a situation that requires her to interact with those she's not comfortable with. I'm not against the idea of her being put into a situation like that, nor the idea of her forming bonds with other members of the cast, I'm just saying that there's not real way to do that without it seeming 'forced,' which isn't necessarily a bad thing in itself... Sorry, I'm not very good at explaining what I'm trying to say, and when I stop to think about it, I feel like I may have interpreted 'forced' to mean something completely different from what was intended.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 5:45:06 GMT -5
Maybe, but on the other hand, it means she's in a situation where she "has" to be shoved out and work on her relationships with other characters, so it could potentially end well depending on how they handle it. Estival had a pretty happy Shinobi Hearts for Murasaki so chances are the new pairing scenarios will end well for her. It hasn't but personally it doesn't feel like it makes sense if you ship 2 characters who aren't very attracted towards each other in that way. I thought Murasaki was jealous because they were closer during their childhood and she wanted their friendship to return to that. Agreed, but that doesn't stop 80 to 90% of pairings like AsukaXYumi from existing tho. And the same case can then be said about YagyuXhibari and MiyabiXImu then, since their relationship is a 1-way street. Just saying. There is far more of a case to be made with MurasakiXImu than most pairings ever, lol. It doesn't stop it but I'm sort of hoping the pairing will make sense. I don't disagree.
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Post by tzitzimine on Jul 16, 2015 11:33:23 GMT -5
Asuka, Yomi, Miyabi and now Yumi. I'd say Homura has also gone full lesbian on us AWESOME
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