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Post by ChaddyFantome on Apr 26, 2015 14:39:26 GMT -5
C'mon man, you can't be THIS dense. Who's saying they need to be the focus? Hell, when I said they needed all of their teams? Fate and Nanaho haven't been the focus of its franchise for YEARS and despite that they keep being an important element of it. Same with Scorpion and Sub Zero, they have been on the series since the beginning and only with MK9 they got prominent roles on the story, before that they were just background characters. The point is that they NEED to be on the games otherwise it won't be a true part of the series I dont know a ton about mortal kombat or nanoha but do any of those things have to do with those characters being the two most popular in their respective series? I think Asuka and Homura are well liked but not enough to be institutions to the entire series that they need to be everywhere. See, that there is a fallacious statement. You are implying that because Yumi is the most popular character by far, that she is intrinsically linked with the identity of the series. People may prefer Yumi, but that , again, doesn't mean they don't like or respect Asuka or Homura, and extrapolating that they see Yumi as the face of the franchise is a very shortsighted view of things. If Senran Kagura were to say, ditch Asuka completely in favor of Yumi, without a doubt it would create fan outrage. Typically, the poster characters for the series quite often aren't even the most popular characters. |
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Post by leanmeanlovinmachine on Apr 26, 2015 15:24:29 GMT -5
I dont know a ton about mortal kombat or nanoha but do any of those things have to do with those characters being the two most popular in their respective series? I think Asuka and Homura are well liked but not enough to be institutions to the entire series that they need to be everywhere. See, that there is a fallacious statement. Stopped reading. It isnt. Answer the question, if the characters he uses as an example are the most popular ones in their franchise, it makes sense they're in every iteration, but it doesnt fit the argument to make Homura and Asuka an institution. Just sticking with them severely limits storytelling and it isn't needed. They're liked but they aren't Senran Kagura institutions. No. Especially not Homura. She's not in any versus advertisements. |
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Post by Dai-T on Apr 26, 2015 18:55:45 GMT -5
I won't get the Vita just for SK. I can say I have more reasons to get a Vita than I had to get a 3DS. I bought a 3DS just for Pokemon. For the Vita I want Persona 4 Golden, Dragon's Crown, God Eater, Killzone, Uncharted, Shinovi Versus, Estival Versus and the list goes on (and I should add that I don't have a PS3, so this system is perfect for me since I prefer protable systems). And this system is specially expensive here in Brazil. I know what I am doing. The aerial raves doesn't exist anymore? That's sad. I'm with you. That mechanic was awesome beyond belief. aerial rave was nothing in bust compared to the original portrait game those were dbz crazy. there was gravity like bust making air combat the focus in that game. |
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Post by ChaddyFantome on Apr 27, 2015 19:41:34 GMT -5
See, that there is a fallacious statement. Stopped reading. It isnt. Answer the question, if the characters he uses as an example are the most popular ones in their franchise, it makes sense they're in every iteration, but it doesn't fit the argument to make Homura and Asuka an institution. Just sticking with them severely limits storytelling and it isn't needed. They're liked but they aren't Senran Kagura institutions. No. Especially not Homura. She's not in any versus advertisements. I can't take you seriously after the bold. Homura is consistently in the top of the most liked characters and the whole of the Crimson squad is the most popular group! Make up your mind. Do you think popularity does decide the objective value of a character, or don't you? You can't think both at the same time. I'd also suggest you actually read the whole post as I have done you the courtesy of reading all of yours. I'd also like if you used an argument that wasn't just . "Nuh uh, you are wrong. I said so". It would do much greater in the pursuit of an actual conversation. |
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Post by Dai-T on Apr 27, 2015 21:28:30 GMT -5
Stopped reading. It isnt. Answer the question, if the characters he uses as an example are the most popular ones in their franchise, it makes sense they're in every iteration, but it doesn't fit the argument to make Homura and Asuka an institution. Just sticking with them severely limits storytelling and it isn't needed. They're liked but they aren't Senran Kagura institutions. No. Especially not Homura. She's not in any versus advertisements. I can't take you seriously after the bold. Homura is consistently in the top of the most liked characters and the whole of the Crimson squad is the most popular group! Make up your mind. Do you think popularity does decide the objective value of a character, or don't you? You can't think both at the same time. I'd also suggest you actually read the whole post as I have done you the courtesy of reading all of yours. I'd also like if you used an argument that wasn't just . "Nuh uh, you are wrong. I said so". It would do much greater in the pursuit of an actual conversation. to be fair once you disrespect someone with name calling you might as well not expect an answer. you seem to start it alot. he is just returning the favor with his attitude. |
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Post by ChaddyFantome on Apr 27, 2015 22:44:25 GMT -5
I can't take you seriously after the bold. Homura is consistently in the top of the most liked characters and the whole of the Crimson squad is the most popular group! Make up your mind. Do you think popularity does decide the objective value of a character, or don't you? You can't think both at the same time. I'd also suggest you actually read the whole post as I have done you the courtesy of reading all of yours. I'd also like if you used an argument that wasn't just . "Nuh uh, you are wrong. I said so". It would do much greater in the pursuit of an actual conversation. to be fair once you disrespect someone with name calling you might as well not expect an answer. you seem to start it alot. he is just returning the favor with his attitude. Excuse me, but I don't remember calling anyone any names and I don't appreciate the accusation that I have done so. Could you please point to where I have done so? Otherwise I find the it quite inappropriate that you would claim that his behavior is appropriate due to actions I did not commit. |
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Post by Dai-T on Apr 27, 2015 23:09:57 GMT -5
to be fair once you disrespect someone with name calling you might as well not expect an answer. you seem to start it alot. he is just returning the favor with his attitude. Excuse me, but I don't remember calling anyone any names and I don't appreciate the accusation that I have done so. Could you please point to where I have done so? Otherwise I find the it quite inappropriate that you would claim that his behavior is appropriate due to actions I did not commit. you can look though your post history im not going near the wall of text. |
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Post by [Vitz!] on Apr 27, 2015 23:21:49 GMT -5
Keep the unecessary discussions out of the topic please.
As for the "giving names" thing the only thing he criticized was his statements. He could be implying some names but there is no concrete nor convincing evidence so that's out of the question.
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Post by Seventh on Apr 27, 2015 23:29:37 GMT -5
Mooooving right along, I'd still like some demon gals and those Super Sentai and Feudal Japan spinoffs someday. Also, thinking some on it, if they do another musical/rhythm game, I'd really like to see them try to sneak in some New Wave representation since gameplay shouldn't be too big an issue and there's over 10 music-themed characters in NW. Even if it's just getting in the leaders of those teams or even just mentioning them in an appropriate way due to the context, it'd be nice.  |
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Post by [Vitz!] on Apr 27, 2015 23:39:22 GMT -5
It would be nice, Seventh, but I would love to see returning musics if they do so.
Bon Apetit had original music, but some people didn't like it as much. Having returning music from Burst and SV would be awesome. In Senran Kagura 2 we have little pieces rearranged in new musics, they could redo that in later games.
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Post by ChaddyFantome on Apr 28, 2015 0:00:52 GMT -5
Mooooving right along, I'd still like some demon gals and those Super Sentai and Feudal Japan spinoffs someday. Also, thinking some on it, if they do another musical/rhythm game, I'd really like to see them try to sneak in some New Wave representation since gameplay shouldn't be too big an issue and there's over 10 music-themed characters in NW. Even if it's just getting in the leaders of those teams or even just mentioning them in an appropriate way due to the context, it'd be nice. I don't see much harm in adding NW to a future rhythm game spinoff. on the contrary, it would give the developers more incentive to up the amount of tracks in the game. The stories are mostly silly and are completely inconsequential anyways, so they can really go nuts with it i think. As @[Vitz!] mentioned though, I really would like to see returning music. One of the cool things about about rhytym game spinoffs is that you expect a selection of tracts from all over the series. I don't mind original tracts as long as they make sure to bring back previous tracts as well, potentially remixing some if not all of em.  |
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Post by tzitzimine on Apr 28, 2015 0:07:25 GMT -5
For another musical spinoff the only I ask is more vocal tracks. And hopefully something more memorable for Yumi, her song was the most uninteresting on BA.
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Post by Juihau on Apr 28, 2015 0:30:40 GMT -5
Completely unrelated, but to me, Yumi's BA theme sounds like it wouldn't be out of place at all in the credits for the Spongebob Squarepants Movie. Except for, y'know, the vocals being in Japanese. Similarly, BA's opening really reminds me of Mario Kart...
That aside, though, straying a bit, I'd really like more post game content... SV and EV especially have none whatsoever, and it's not really made up for by online multiplayer. Also, it kinda bugs me that you can't use damaged costumes in EV's diorama mode... cough
EDIT: I like how, the day after I say I want damaged costumes in diorama, they implement it. I mean, obviously it's not because I mentioned it, but still.
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Post by TheAtom on Apr 28, 2015 4:28:39 GMT -5
On a complete side note: more shimapan. It's all I'm asking. More shimapan.
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Post by leanmeanlovinmachine on Apr 28, 2015 8:23:07 GMT -5
Stopped reading. It isnt. Answer the question, if the characters he uses as an example are the most popular ones in their franchise, it makes sense they're in every iteration, but it doesn't fit the argument to make Homura and Asuka an institution. Just sticking with them severely limits storytelling and it isn't needed. They're liked but they aren't Senran Kagura institutions. No. Especially not Homura. She's not in any versus advertisements. I can't take you seriously after the bold. Homura is consistently in the top of the most liked characters and the whole of the Crimson squad is the most popular group! Make up your mind. Do you think popularity does decide the objective value of a character, or don't you? You can't think both at the same time. I'd also suggest you actually read the whole post as I have done you the courtesy of reading all of yours. I'd also like if you used an argument that wasn't just . "Nuh uh, you are wrong. I said so". It would do much greater in the pursuit of an actual conversation. Homura isnt used in any versus advertisements. She got what? Like one store preorder bonus? The same number as Asuka. Your argument is that Homura and Asuka should be in every game when they dont need to be. They dont have the popularity that backs that statement up. Considering the versus games are the best selling ones too and Asuka at most gets on the cover when Homura gets jack, I dont see why Homura is in this discussion. More lyrical tracks from the VAs in general for another game would be nice. |
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