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Post by Dai-T on Mar 4, 2013 18:40:12 GMT -5
But I told you all this before. when it comes to these kind of games its a safer bet to be on a Sony system in the long run because sales for the game does not matter, the games and the anime are all ads for the products like the toys. Hoppy said he was getting that Mirai figure and that is as much as a game. Thats the plan and it has never changed. This plan can not work on a nintendo system because those type of people that buy those products are not there in numbers and thats who they are targeting. Go to any japanese site that has a bunch of ads for those figures and pillows and all of those games or series are on a Sony system, Its a market Nintendo does not spend money on or care about so why even complain.
I said this along time ago on all the boards I go to and now you want to be suprised about calculated results. also the 3DS's owners should have not sent him death threats. Did you know this happend. Yeah so If I was in his shoes I would do the same. He even had to pull support and promotion on Burst because the fans got to out of hand. its only a game but once you cross that line forget it why should he care. he has his life and family to worry about.
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Post by sl68 on Mar 5, 2013 4:26:16 GMT -5
But I told you all this before. when it comes to these kind of games its a safer bet to be on a Sony system in the long run because sales for the game does not matter, the games and the anime are all ads for the products like the toys. Hoppy said he was getting that Mirai figure and that is as much as a game. Thats the plan and it has never changed. This plan can not work on a nintendo system because those type of people that buy those products are not there in numbers and thats who they are targeting. Go to any japanese site that has a bunch of ads for those figures and pillows and all of those games or series are on a Sony system, Its a market Nintendo does not spend money on or care about so why even complain. I said this along time ago on all the boards I go to and now you want to be suprised about calculated results. also the 3DS's owners should have not sent him death threats. Did you know this happend. Yeah so If I was in his shoes I would do the same. He even had to pull support and promotion on Burst because the fans got to out of hand. its only a game but once you cross that line forget it why should he care. he has his life and family to worry about. Why would it be a safer bet on Sony's system? And even if that's true, why did Takaki promise new features in the Nintendo Dream interview from 2011 - features that ended up in Shinovi Versus instead of in Burst? No matter what business excuse there is, you don't go out promising things like that if you're not 100 % certain that you can keeep your promise. If you're not that certain, then you shut up. If the otaku market was a Sony exclusive, then why did the original and Burst do so well on 3DS? They did better than MAQL's expectations. How do you explain that? And how do you explain that MAQL started the series on 3DS instead of on Vita if Sony console are the only ones with a market for these kind of games? It seems to me this board is actually full of Sony and Vita fanboys who are super happy that the Vita games sold better than the 3DS ones, and thus defends MAQL and Takaki with all their might. How many people here were fans enough to import a Japanese 3DS and the Kagura games instead of just talking about them? Huh? I'm not a fanboy, because I can understand the rage of Vita owners when Capcom put Monster Hunter 4 on the 3DS. This is a similar betrayal, although not as epic in scale since MonHun is a much bigger franchise with many more fans than Senran Kagura.
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Post by zorogou on Mar 5, 2013 5:58:09 GMT -5
I don't wanna join in the heated discussion but just wanted to points some things out. And how do you explain that MAQL started the series on 3DS instead of on Vita if Sony console are the only ones with a market for these kind of games? Simple. It was the 3D. At the time it the console came out Takaki thought he wanted to make something for it, 30 seconds later he thought of breasts and Senran Kagura. Also the Vita released 3 months after the first game came out. You might say he could've had a production kit before the console came out so he could've released SK for the Vita. But that comes back to the first point I made; it was the 3D feature. It seems to me this board is actually full of Sony and Vita fanboys who are super happy that the Vita games sold better than the 3DS ones, and thus defends MAQL and Takaki with all their might. How many people here were fans enough to import a Japanese 3DS and the Kagura games instead of just talking about them? Huh? I imported a 3DS because of the first game. Most of the stuff I've written on here has been used for the wiki... I don't like to blow my own trumpet but please don't generalise.
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Post by sl68 on Mar 5, 2013 6:10:42 GMT -5
But the 3D is not really the point here, we were discussing how different the market is for 3DS and Vita. That has nothing to do with the 3D effect. If they didn't believe there were otakus in the 3DS market, MAQL would never have greenlighted the game in the first place.
Well, me too. Of course not everyone here is a Sony/Vita fanboy, but considering how much people are willing to ignore Takaki's lies, I bet there ARE many Sony/Vita fanboys here. Especially considering the Vita is not region locked (meaning they don't have to buy new hardware just to play Senran Kagura).
The only way MAQL and Takaki can redeem themselves now is by announcing Senran Kagura 2 for 3DS with vastly improved everything - from graphics to gameplay and features. If they announce another game for the Vita now, he's been 100 % proven a shitty liar who should feel completely ashamed of himself.
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 5, 2013 9:00:51 GMT -5
Weeeeeeeeeeeeell the short answer for all your problems is the producer lies don't matter too you because none of what he says affects you because you own 0 games and you are not involved with the community.
Once you own a game and spend money then you can talk. he has not takin your money am I right? So he has not affected you.
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Post by sl68 on Mar 5, 2013 9:31:30 GMT -5
Weeeeeeeeeeeeell the short answer for all your problems is the producer lies don't matter too you because none of what he says affects you because you own 0 games and you are not involved with the community. Once you own a game and spend money then you can talk. he has not takin your money am I right? So he has not affected you. I tell you what, I have both the original and Burst, and I probably own more Senran Kagura merchandise than ANYONE here. I have even framed posters in high quality glass and put them on walls in my flat. I have the super rare Yomi oshiri mousepad and three oppai mousepads, plus all the manga, the boob pillow and the Hibari dakimakura. I'm a serious fan, and that's why I'm so angry and disappointed on Takaki and MAQL.
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Post by Dai-T on Mar 5, 2013 9:47:20 GMT -5
Weeeeeeeeeeeeell the short answer for all your problems is the producer lies don't matter too you because none of what he says affects you because you own 0 games and you are not involved with the community. Once you own a game and spend money then you can talk. he has not takin your money am I right? So he has not affected you. I tell you what, I have both the original and Burst, and I probably own more Senran Kagura merchandise than ANYONE here. I have even framed posters in high quality glass and put them on walls in my flat. I have the super rare Yomi oshiri mousepad and three oppai mousepads, plus all the manga, the boob pillow and the Hibari dakimakura. I'm a serious fan, and that's why I'm so angry and disappointed on Takaki and MAQL. So you own everything and can't talk about anything in the series but negative things. Did not see you posting during the first game or Burst or when this board was made. So why would anyone believe you? Zoro has translated countless stuff for this board and I have made many breakdowns for all the games on the gameplay side. If you own the games what did you do? You own the merch What did you show? All you have done is pull links. where's your review of Burst or Portait? You are not involved nothing the producer says affects you. This is my last comment on the matter until you can show real proof and not pulled links off the net that you are involved with this series.
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Post by sl68 on Mar 5, 2013 13:05:12 GMT -5
I tell you what, I have both the original and Burst, and I probably own more Senran Kagura merchandise than ANYONE here. I have even framed posters in high quality glass and put them on walls in my flat. I have the super rare Yomi oshiri mousepad and three oppai mousepads, plus all the manga, the boob pillow and the Hibari dakimakura. I'm a serious fan, and that's why I'm so angry and disappointed on Takaki and MAQL. So you own everything and can't talk about anything in the series but negative things. Did not see you posting during the first game or Burst or when this board was made. So why would anyone believe you? Zoro has translated countless stuff for this board and I have made many breakdowns for all the games on the gameplay side. If you own the games what did you do? You own the merch What did you show? All you have done is pull links. where's your review of Burst or Portait? You are not involved nothing the producer says affects you. This is my last comment on the matter until you can show real proof and not pulled links off the net that you are involved with this series. I don't really care about contributing with FAQs and such because I strongly believe every gamer should finish the game without help. I play that way, but if others need help then of course they like to get help. I just want to play at my own pace - right now I'm getting best ranking on every mission with every girl in the original. When I'm finished with that, I'm going to do the same with Burst. I take pics of all merchandise tomorrow. Please look forward to it, you doubter.
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Post by solaris on Sept 24, 2013 23:03:35 GMT -5
This whole thing about PSVita vs 3DS reminds me a lot to Sonic the Hedgehog. Because Sega Deamcast was a totally flop (fail), Sega has no other choice but sell their Sonic games in the Gamecube. Soooo many Sega fanboys exploded in rage because of that decision. In 2003, when Sega release Sonic Heroes for Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox, soooooo many Nintendo fanboys got mad, too. I don't really care if the next game will be on Vita or 3DS. I just want a real good game that i can enjoy playing it, over and over again. Also, Senran Kagura isn't an exclusive console game, like Super Mario or something else.
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Sept 30, 2013 0:24:03 GMT -5
Well, you can't always please the fans. Some decisions must be done and some of them have to be a wise decision that will work in a long run. There will be the good side of it and the bad side of it.
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 25, 2013 0:10:41 GMT -5
big problem I see is the rival system they need to get rid of this because the longer this stay the more character development stops. I want to see in canon what ikaruga will do in a fight against haruka and hikage.
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Oct 25, 2013 0:17:09 GMT -5
Makes you wonder if Marvelous is aware of this...
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Post by FlamingYu on Oct 25, 2013 1:58:04 GMT -5
big problem I see is the rival system they need to get rid of this because the longer this stay the more character development stops. I want to see in canon what ikaruga will do in a fight against haruka and hikage. Basically, all you ever wanted is a random royal rumble match up? If one have no reason to fight another, why bother in the first place?
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 25, 2013 2:24:55 GMT -5
big problem I see is the rival system they need to get rid of this because the longer this stay the more character development stops. I want to see in canon what ikaruga will do in a fight against haruka and hikage. Basically, all you ever wanted is a random royal rumble match up? If one have no reason to fight another, why bother in the first place? no what is the point of the same rivalrys to happen over and over. that's like goku only fighting vegeta since that's his real rival.
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Post by h2foxo on Oct 25, 2013 3:43:43 GMT -5
Well they could of made it more Hanzou v Hebi ect.
Hikage: Huh your that Asuka for Hanzou Academy i'm afraid here's where it ends for you on this mission Asuka: I WILL NOT FALL HERE!
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