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Post by Dai-T on Oct 25, 2013 3:57:25 GMT -5
Well they could of made it more Hanzou v Hebi ect. Hikage: Huh your that Asuka for Hanzou Academy i'm afraid here's where it ends for you on this mission Asuka: I WILL NOT FALL HERE! sorry I was talking from an anime stand point or main story part not missons.
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Post by h2foxo on Oct 25, 2013 3:59:34 GMT -5
Well they could of made it more Hanzou v Hebi ect. Hikage: Huh your that Asuka for Hanzou Academy i'm afraid here's where it ends for you on this mission Asuka: I WILL NOT FALL HERE! sorry I was talking from an anime stand point or main story part not missons. Yes but that's how the fight and rivalry could first initiate. it was an example
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Post by Dai-T on Oct 25, 2013 4:10:11 GMT -5
sorry I was talking from an anime stand point or main story part not missons. Yes but that's how the fight and rivalry could first initiate. it was an example ok it was just me looking at the example wrong. I want something more drawn out. where now asuka s main rival are hikage and Yomi.
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Post by Silent Protagonist on Nov 20, 2013 22:31:41 GMT -5
I remember reading that Katsuragi was supposed to be the main protagonist and after having played this, I can't help but think that Hanzou's story may have been done better. Not only that, I wonder how the antagonists would've been changed. Would Homura be Katsuragi's Rival? Would it be Hikage? Would Hikage have had Homura's Personality? Would Homura fight with Hikage's style? Lot's of "What-ifs." Anyway, I was always kind of indifferent towards Katsuragi. I mean, I know her tropes, but I didn't really know the character. I liked that she reminds me of Hakufu Sonsaku and Ikkitousen in general, but I feel she got shafted hard. {Safety Spoiler?}In the Hebi side, I didn't really notice the rivalry between Homura and Asuka. They only had like, 3 encounters? I think the pacing for their rivalry was done better in the Hanzou side. Anyway, I'm all for seeing more rivalries, provided they flow naturally. There's a lot of unexplored potential.
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Post by Dai-T on Nov 21, 2013 2:00:17 GMT -5
I remember reading that Katsuragi was supposed to be the main protagonist and after having played this, I can't help but think that Hanzou's story may have been done better. Not only that, I wonder how the antagonists would've been changed. Would Homura be Katsuragi's Rival? Would it be Hikage? Would Hikage have had Homura's Personality? Would Homura fight with Hikage's style? Lot's of "What-ifs." Anyway, I was always kind of indifferent towards Katsuragi. I mean, I know her tropes, but I didn't really know the character. I liked that she reminds me of Hakufu Sonsaku and Ikkitousen in general, but I feel she got shafted hard. {Safety Spoiler?}In the Hebi side, I didn't really notice the rivalry between Homura and Asuka. They only had like, 3 encounters? I think the pacing for their rivalry was done better in the Hanzou side. Anyway, I'm all for seeing more rivalries, provided they flow naturally. There's a lot of unexplored potential. . producer had he set her as main but he admitted he is not a writer so left Alot up to the writer. the writer could have made the change. it was said the story was wrote very quick. and katsu-nee comparison you made I never thought of and sounds about right.
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Post by ialda on Nov 25, 2013 14:58:45 GMT -5
The rivalry between Asuka and Homura had already been adressed in the first game, so I think it's logical they choose to focus on some other characters in Hebi/Burst (Ikaruga and Yomi, for example).
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Post by scrubbyscum999 on Dec 15, 2013 23:35:18 GMT -5
Well, the main thing I am afraid of is the game staying on Vita. They could easily put resources in another 3DS game and just up the graphics and production. I feel that no offense, but I never even SEEN a real life Vita from someone who actually owned one. That right there should tell you something. I know some are saying the otaku community is on the Vita but I find that, hard to believe. I'm going to need some evidence cause my thought process is that assuming the otaku community will have more stuff. If you have a Vita, it seems more logical to just get a 3DS too than the other way around. Maybe its just me but the 3DS has a good selection of "niche" games. I just don't feel like getting a Vita for what would be one series. I'm sorry, but it is frustrating when I go online, in real life, and this the first place I really see Vita owners in a "neutral" gaming spot. Know one guy who had a Vita who is an SG player, and he only got cause his friend has one. He made it seem like the 3DS was more worthwhile. I know I am vouching for my own interests so whatever.
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Post by Dai-T on Dec 16, 2013 2:00:52 GMT -5
Well, the main thing I am afraid of is the game staying on Vita. They could easily put resources in another 3DS game and just up the graphics and production. I feel that no offense, but I never even SEEN a real life Vita from someone who actually owned one. That right there should tell you something. I know some are saying the otaku community is on the Vita but I find that, hard to believe. I'm going to need some evidence cause my thought process is that assuming the otaku community will have more stuff. If you have a Vita, it seems more logical to just get a 3DS too than the other way around. Maybe its just me but the 3DS has a good selection of "niche" games. I just don't feel like getting a Vita for what would be one series. I'm sorry, but it is frustrating when I go online, in real life, and this the first place I really see Vita owners in a "neutral" gaming spot. Know one guy who had a Vita who is an SG player, and he only got cause his friend has one. He made it seem like the 3DS was more worthwhile. I know I am vouching for my own interests so whatever. Well there has been no vita game announcement so things are looking ok.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 4:45:48 GMT -5
Well, the main thing I am afraid of is the game staying on Vita. They could easily put resources in another 3DS game and just up the graphics and production. I feel that no offense, but I never even SEEN a real life Vita from someone who actually owned one. That right there should tell you something. I know some are saying the otaku community is on the Vita but I find that, hard to believe. I'm going to need some evidence cause my thought process is that assuming the otaku community will have more stuff. If you have a Vita, it seems more logical to just get a 3DS too than the other way around. Maybe its just me but the 3DS has a good selection of "niche" games. I just don't feel like getting a Vita for what would be one series. I'm sorry, but it is frustrating when I go online, in real life, and this the first place I really see Vita owners in a "neutral" gaming spot. Know one guy who had a Vita who is an SG player, and he only got cause his friend has one. He made it seem like the 3DS was more worthwhile. I know I am vouching for my own interests so whatever. I am A proud Vita owner and SV is one of the best games for it. This opinion shocked me a little, firstly I have to say that I have never played burst but from videos and pictures there is no comparison! SV looks so much better on the Vita, miles better than those kiddie graphics on the 3DS. On a similar note it surprised me that the shingeki game also chose DS for the first game, it looks shocking bad, these are adult series that are being made to look silly. I hope for a better Vita Shingeki game, where the characters don't look like pokemon. SV looks a lot more fun too. While I agree more people have 3DS, many people also realising the awesomeness of the Vita. A lot vita owners I know got SV or DLed it from the store, it was top of the charts for a while here in Japan. Long live Senran Kagura on the PS Vita! the best looking and In my opinion the best place for the series to continue.
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Post by Dai-T on Dec 16, 2013 7:55:52 GMT -5
Well, the main thing I am afraid of is the game staying on Vita. They could easily put resources in another 3DS game and just up the graphics and production. I feel that no offense, but I never even SEEN a real life Vita from someone who actually owned one. That right there should tell you something. I know some are saying the otaku community is on the Vita but I find that, hard to believe. I'm going to need some evidence cause my thought process is that assuming the otaku community will have more stuff. If you have a Vita, it seems more logical to just get a 3DS too than the other way around. Maybe its just me but the 3DS has a good selection of "niche" games. I just don't feel like getting a Vita for what would be one series. I'm sorry, but it is frustrating when I go online, in real life, and this the first place I really see Vita owners in a "neutral" gaming spot. Know one guy who had a Vita who is an SG player, and he only got cause his friend has one. He made it seem like the 3DS was more worthwhile. I know I am vouching for my own interests so whatever. I am A proud Vita owner and SV is one of the best games for it. This opinion shocked me a little, firstly I have to say that I have never played burst but from videos and pictures there is no comparison! SV looks so much better on the Vita, miles better than those kiddie graphics on the 3DS. On a similar note it surprised me that the shingeki game also chose DS for the first game, it looks shocking bad, these are adult series that are being made to look silly. I hope for a better Vita Shingeki game, where the characters don't look like pokemon. SV looks a lot more fun too. While I agree more people have 3DS, many people also realising the awesomeness of the Vita. A lot vita owners I know got SV or DLed it from the store, it was top of the charts for a while here in Japan. Long live Senran Kagura on the PS Vita! the best looking and In my opinion the best place for the series to continue. And the warz start.
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Post by [Vitz!] on Dec 16, 2013 13:32:35 GMT -5
Oh god... He didn't go that way.
At times like this I say: Please, don't be a fanboy, try to be the more neutral as possible instead.
BTW I don't dislike any of those portable systems. I just think PSVita has lot of potential but not even Sony recognizes this. You all know that I mean? I mean that the PSVita SHOULD HAVE the same love as 3DS has.
It should have a lot more games and, subsequently, players and developers interested. And not only in Japan, of course!
YES. I'm defending the Vita and I DON'T even have the system in the first place. Why? Because I have a 3DS but I think Vita needs a lot more attention.
But I think that the 3DS shouldn't be underestimated because the Vita has graphics and better hardware. People should stop even caring too much about that because the visuals don't define the game as good at all (at least not alone). When you judge a game by its visuals is like you are judging a book by only looking at it's cover. I must say that this perfectly aplies to the Senran Kagura franchise since it has a lot more than just the fanservice and the hot girls to offer and people tend to look only to the fanservice side.
Having gourgeous graphics and visuals are good, but not the most important thing in the game industry. The most important think are the games the said console or portable has, and Vita is far behind the 3DS in terms of this. I'm not saying the games in Vita are bad of course. We have games like Persona 4 Golden and SK - Shinovi Versus to prove the games aren't bad. I'm saying that the Vita has not that much in the number of games and that games for Vita are made for the PS3 too.
And what is the problem with the second? People prefer to have a PS3. If they made some of those games exclusive to the Vita it would sell a lot more. Sony is just trolling it's own system and its players.
About the Senran Kagura in the 3DS: There's no actual problem with the graphics or visuals at all (they are just in a lower resolution compared to the SV), the true problem here is the instable frame rate, and that could be fixed with better programing. There's lot of games that run a lot better than the SK to prove this. The sheer number of models apearing at the same time during missions is also an issue. There could be a little less people on the screen to fix this a bit (you can have a good glimpse of how the games run better with less people when you defeat lot's of them in the game).
Anyway. I will not buy a Playstation Vita to play the games I want (I'm looking at you, SV and P4G). They are very few. The 3DS I bought for some reasons: The (reduced) price at the time, the fact that I never had any Nintendo console in my whole life and the fact that 3DS was (and still is) in it's better shape in terms of games avaliable and coming to it.
Unfortunately the PSVita for me is just this: just a promise of something better, just like the Wii U is for lots of people now.
And sorry for the bad english.
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Post by scrubbyscum999 on Dec 16, 2013 17:24:51 GMT -5
Well, the main thing I am afraid of is the game staying on Vita. They could easily put resources in another 3DS game and just up the graphics and production. I feel that no offense, but I never even SEEN a real life Vita from someone who actually owned one. That right there should tell you something. I know some are saying the otaku community is on the Vita but I find that, hard to believe. I'm going to need some evidence cause my thought process is that assuming the otaku community will have more stuff. If you have a Vita, it seems more logical to just get a 3DS too than the other way around. Maybe its just me but the 3DS has a good selection of "niche" games. I just don't feel like getting a Vita for what would be one series. I'm sorry, but it is frustrating when I go online, in real life, and this the first place I really see Vita owners in a "neutral" gaming spot. Know one guy who had a Vita who is an SG player, and he only got cause his friend has one. He made it seem like the 3DS was more worthwhile. I know I am vouching for my own interests so whatever. I am A proud Vita owner and SV is one of the best games for it. This opinion shocked me a little, firstly I have to say that I have never played burst but from videos and pictures there is no comparison! SV looks so much better on the Vita, miles better than those kiddie graphics on the 3DS. On a similar note it surprised me that the shingeki game also chose DS for the first game, it looks shocking bad, these are adult series that are being made to look silly. I hope for a better Vita Shingeki game, where the characters don't look like pokemon. SV looks a lot more fun too. While I agree more people have 3DS, many people also realising the awesomeness of the Vita. A lot vita owners I know got SV or DLed it from the store, it was top of the charts for a while here in Japan. Long live Senran Kagura on the PS Vita! the best looking and In my opinion the best place for the series to continue. Ok, 3DS actually has a good amount of power. The main thing is the resolution. The 3DS actually can have really good 3d modeling and even good frame rate, its just programming and a give and take. Now, I'll admit I'm a Nintendo fanboy and never cared enough about the other systems to go out of my way to buy one. I game mostly portable too, which probably doesn't help. The 3DS has more games, that's a fact. Give you an example, I loved my Wii. With Virtual Console, 1st party, and the occasional 3rd party gem I didn't even use it to it's full potential and I was satisfied. I'm sure however the PS3 and 360 had WAY more games, its just most didn't fit my taste and it didn't convince me to ever buy them. You may not like the 3DS, but there is a lot of choices, as for the Vita there is few. If you like the Vita choices better fine, but I will give you just off the top of my head games that gamers were happy about on the 3DS. Pokemon X & Y Code of Princess Shin Megami Tensei IV Monster Hunter Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Professor Layton Phoenix Wright Etrian Odyssey Project X Zone Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward Might Switch Force 1 & 2 There is plenty more but that is just some I thought of off the top of my head. You can provide your own list as well, but the point is that most people are going to have a 3DS and it would be better to reach most people. I really hope more games come to the Wii U, as I am going to get the system cause I know at least there is going to be 1st party (which is enough for me). I'm not going to expect a smaller 3rd party to make games for it when its sales are so low right now. It sucks, but that is life. Honestly this is a good opportunity, what games does the Vita exclusively have? Without importing, what games does it currently have that could convince me to at least maybe get it down the road? I am not too interested in those gritty sort of games if you know what I mean.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 18:19:31 GMT -5
First is response to the fanboy thing, that term annoys me, we are simply fans.
I love the 3DS, its great and I'm looking into getting one, no one has to list games, we all know the choices are better.
What I was defending was Senran on Vita, The game is not perfect by any means but come on! SV looking that way is what we, as fan of the series, wanted it to look like, im sure burst is fun and I look forward to playing it but for someone to say the Vita versions should stop is crazy and, in my opinion would be a step backward.
Should the series continue I hope both sets of owners can get the sequel they desire, all I know is that the fans will be more eger to see what SV2 becomes than Burst2 because SV2 has more to offer.
I guess part of this reply is out of fear because I believe that the makers of SK will see things your way too, much as the Shingeki makers have done, more owners more profit. This is a great shame and as Im sure alot of my fellow SK fans would agree, the loss of Shinobi Vs would be a loss for us all.
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Post by Dai-T on Dec 16, 2013 19:15:58 GMT -5
Try to keep the discussion on the anti system side.
That being said I think both games play to there systems advantages so eveyone wins. In terms of long term games it will be hard to make these for both systems without one group feeling cheated. My guess is this is why it is taken so long even for a hint of a new game and system.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 19:30:33 GMT -5
Try to keep the discussion on the anti system side. That being said I think both games play to there systems advantages so eveyone wins. In terms of long term games it will be hard to make these for both systems without one group feeling cheated. My guess is this is why it is taken so long even for a hint of a new game and system. What do you mean wave? You want us to battle over systems?
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