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Post by augen on Sept 9, 2013 20:10:56 GMT -5
vita tv has a great price and is targeted at the Japanese market. the up side to this is even if it fails Nintendo won't do a 3ds wiiu version in fear of looking like they copied. I think Sony completely gave up on trying to compete with Nintendo(Nintendo is struggling trying to sell the Wii U...) on that front so it's why the turned the Vita into a set-top box-like device. The handheld just got a upgrade that is cool for people who are still on the fence about getting a vita, the universal(now) pricecut and better library of games should net some sales for both the handheld and the TV console variant. The Vita TV as I said before is for a specific demographic, generally I think it's for the more casual or non-gamer than for someone like me who is a avid gamer as I stated. Reason behind that is because the Vita TV is more or less a affordable way for people to enjoy things like Netflix, Hulu and other streaming services that PSN offers without having buy a normal set-top box from Mac or where ever. In my opinion though, the market for this device is going to be very niche because Smart TV's are on the rise and there are already so many devices that does what the Vita TV does for not too much more money. To me to get the most out of the Vita TV, the household needs a PS4...and generally why would you want this thing when you have a PS4 and a Vita handheld? The only logical explanation I could come up with is for it to be used in your living room or extra room where you PS4 isn't present and people can enjoy using it for Netflix. <...Gift for my Mom essentially since she has Netflix and Hulu and watches shows frequently on them...Well, I am one of those people that had a Super Gameboy so I do actually like the idea of being able to play hand held games on the big screen as well. I mean, that would mean three foot tall Homura on my screen!  The question is if I drop $200 on a Vita, is that feature worth the extra $100 if certain games are not compatible. Curious when it rolls out in NA and would want to use DS4 with it. |
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Sept 9, 2013 20:11:56 GMT -5
As for the Memory Spaces, don't worry too much about it. You can always take it out of your memory card and store it on you computer for safe keeping, saving up a lot of spaces. Either way, the choice is yours. That is actually really interesting. I'd have to weight how many games and save files on a card and how cumbersome swapping them on my PC would be. Given Sony's insane pricing model could save me a bit of money going that way. You can thank one of my friends on Siliconera. He told me this when I was deciding on what memory card I should get when I finally get my PS Vita. |
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Post by Driftslave on Sept 9, 2013 20:29:46 GMT -5
Its for the japanese market like I said thats it no other market. I live in japan and japanese are too lazy to game on console anymore because of work and other things. if they could just use there handheld on the TV and off they would. The price keeps it always in the sweet spot and its a stand one and does not need its on content so Sony could just make a few and put them in there section in stores with out really taking much room. Basiclly is the 2DS answer from Sony in japan since nintendo does not need 2DS in japan. But Sony needs something to get people on board the Vita train some how since PS4 will be designed around it. We will have to just see how they both play our in the regions they are targeted for. I dont know, The Vita TV is only purpose is to serve as a HDMI output Vita substitute since the Vita(and Vita 2000) don't support HMDI output which in itself is kinda ridiculous to me since the PSP had Video out in later revisions...I guess since they knew they were making the Vita TV, they would just scrap the idea of HDMI out completely and focus on remote play for the PS4. Again, my opinion... I don't see this as a way of competing with the 2DS...which in itself targeted towards a younger demographic with it's design and price point. Sony clearly wants people to buy Vita handhelds to be used in conjunction with PS4 for it's portable nature, not another console to be used in another room or stationary area with a TV/Monitor. The Vita TV is less integral toward that base foundation Sony wants for it's users of the PS4>Vita>Smartphone/Tablet ecosystem. I can see your point if the Vita TV is a Japan only thing but if it does get sold overseas then it seems kinda invalidated since it would be marketed towards other countries too. If it bombs over in the states like the PSP-Go, then it really was made for the niche Japanese market like you said. This discussion is also off the initial topic too... |
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Post by Yomi on Sept 9, 2013 20:29:56 GMT -5
I'd wait until November 14 and get the Vita TV, SKV is compatible with it, I seen the list this morning.
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Post by Dai-T on Sept 9, 2013 20:45:48 GMT -5
Its for the japanese market like I said thats it no other market. I live in japan and japanese are too lazy to game on console anymore because of work and other things. if they could just use there handheld on the TV and off they would. The price keeps it always in the sweet spot and its a stand one and does not need its on content so Sony could just make a few and put them in there section in stores with out really taking much room. Basiclly is the 2DS answer from Sony in japan since nintendo does not need 2DS in japan. But Sony needs something to get people on board the Vita train some how since PS4 will be designed around it. We will have to just see how they both play our in the regions they are targeted for. I dont know, The Vita TV is only purpose is to serve as a HDMI output Vita substitute since the Vita(and Vita 2000) don't support HMDI output which in itself is kinda ridiculous to me since the PSP had Video out in later revisions...I guess since they knew they were making the Vita TV, they would just scrap the idea of HDMI out completely and focus on remote play for the PS4. Again, my opinion... I don't see this as a way of competing with the 2DS...which in itself targeted towards a younger demographic with it's design and price point. Sony clearly wants people to buy Vita handhelds to be used in conjunction with PS4 for it's portable nature, not another console to be used in another room or stationary area with a TV/Monitor. The Vita TV is less integral toward that base foundation Sony wants for it's users of the PS4>Vita>Smartphone/Tablet ecosystem. I can see your point if the Vita TV is a Japan only thing but if it does get sold overseas then it seems kinda invalidated since it would be marketed towards other countries too. If it bombs over in the states like the PSP-Go, then it really was made for the niche Japanese market like you said. This discussion is also off the initial topic too... oh never looked at the OP. thought it was for all things vita. |
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Post by Driftslave on Sept 9, 2013 20:46:31 GMT -5
Well, I am one of those people that had a Super Gameboy so I do actually like the idea of being able to play hand held games on the big screen as well. I mean, that would mean three foot tall Homura on my screen! The question is if I drop $200 on a Vita, is that feature worth the extra $100 if certain games are not compatible. Curious when it rolls out in NA and would want to use DS4 with it. You should ask yourself this, I'm I going to be using my Vita as a handheld or as a console? If your using it as a handheld to play Shinovi Versus then there should be no question to which one you should buy, even if that mean's you won't be playing SV on a HD display...you paying $100 for convenience of a handheld. If your planning to buy a PS4 in the future then to "me" I would get the handheld because I can use remote play with PS4 virtually anywhere with 3G/Wifi connection, which makes owning a handheld worth it imo. [the ease of playing games anywhere]
The upside to the Vita TV is that it's cheaper(buy $100) and you can play Vita games in glorious HD! And about the Memory issue, PSV has a data management app for your PC to manage your applications on your Vita, so you can easily transfer data from your PC>Vita>PS3/PS4, and so on and so forth. However note that Sony forces you to buy proprietary memory sticks which can cost a arm and a leg. If your not rocking anything bigger than 8-16GB, it's going to be rough....especially for the handheld. So it's your call. |
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Post by augen on Sept 9, 2013 21:46:28 GMT -5
You all have been very helpful. I think if the Vita (original) goes on sale this holiday be very tempting. Otherwise hold off for 2014 and debate on seeing go Vita or Vita + Vita TV.
Also, thank you so much on data management. Going 8GB and management instead of 32/64GB could be nice savings.
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Sept 9, 2013 21:51:50 GMT -5
You all have been very helpful. I think if the Vita (original) goes on sale this holiday be very tempting. Otherwise hold off for 2014 and debate on seeing go Vita or Vita + Vita TV. Also, thank you so much on data management. Going 8GB and management instead of 32/64GB could be nice savings. Glad that I can help in some shape or form. It makes me feel nice inside.....Inb4 someone makes a sexual joke. > > < < |
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Post by Driftslave on Sept 9, 2013 22:50:52 GMT -5
You all have been very helpful. I think if the Vita (original) goes on sale this holiday be very tempting. Otherwise hold off for 2014 and debate on seeing go Vita or Vita + Vita TV. Also, thank you so much on data management. Going 8GB and management instead of 32/64GB could be nice savings. No problem, The original Vita is already price dropped to $199 so I think now is a good time to consider getting one. -3G model -4GB Memory stick in bundle Those are 2 major incentives there to get it for $199, I mean sure the game is a throw-away game but it's something(trade-bait). -Alternatively you can wait to see the bundles they will offer with the Vita 2000 series, they maybe better and you get the newest model Vita on top of all that. So you got options Chief. Also bare in mind if your in the market for a 8GB memory card, they are around $20(or under) on Amazon or other outlets. If your in the States, check back frequently at CheapAssGamer.com They have some pretty sweet deals especially around Black Friday which everyone should be saving up for. |
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Post by h2foxo on Sept 10, 2013 1:21:15 GMT -5
As for the Memory Spaces, don't worry too much about it. You can always take it out of your memory card and store it on you computer for safe keeping, saving up a lot of spaces. Either way, the choice is yours. That is actually really interesting. I'd have to weight how many games and save files on a card and how cumbersome swapping them on my PC would be. Given Sony's insane pricing model could save me a bit of money going that way. You can also do this with your Ps3 and most likely Ps4 instead of a PC. |
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Sept 10, 2013 2:06:52 GMT -5
Overall, there are ways to store your memory so you're all set.  |
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Post by Driftslave on Sept 10, 2013 2:18:21 GMT -5
I actually dislike unloading my Vita stuff onto the PS3...it's all unorganized and makes it obnoxiously longer to scroll through the XMB to get to downloaded games because of the uninstalled Vita apps.
Do yourself a solid and use your PC.
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Post by augen on Sept 10, 2013 8:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by Leon Tekashi on Sept 10, 2013 9:20:23 GMT -5
I know darn well that when the ps4 comes out, they can configure it to allow us to play games that uses the touch screen. If that happens, the PS Vita TV will be completely awesome. For the time being, it's partially awesome in my opinion.
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Post by Driftslave on Sept 10, 2013 13:48:02 GMT -5
I know darn well that when the ps4 comes out, they can configure it to allow us to play games that uses the touch screen. If that happens, the PS Vita TV will be completely awesome. For the time being, it's partially awesome in my opinion. DualShock 4......think about it. |
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